On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>> Even by the PPMC's comments they obliquely acknowledge that there's not much
>> activity and expressed an interested in simply keeping it around with the 
>> hopes
>> that something would happen; there were no concrete ideas or plans on how to
>> grow the community because, by their own admission, no one has the time to
>> work much on the project.
> 
> That lack of concrete plans is a good place to start. Anyone from the
> community who opposes retirement should take it up on themselves to
> provide such a concrete plan for example in time for next month's
> report. Just like the caster of a technical veto should come up with
> an alternative implementation. :-)


As I mentioned in an earlier email, we did have this conversation seven months 
ago.  We came to a consensus to give it another try.  We even added a few 
committers a "bit early" with the hopes that they would infuse the project with 
more energy.

The vote came after many discussions over the year.  The Chukwa podling, which 
was started back in 2010, was given its second chance.  Unless there's 
something glaring that was overlooked, I'm not prepared to change my mind about 
its retirement.


Regards,
Alan

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