Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt. In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if those discussions drove some of us to distraction.
A bit before the wiki crashed, I wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals The TL;DR version of this is: 1: let's take Champions seriously as a role 2: let's ask for a minimal heartbeat from every podling every month As the person responsible for filing the report, it seems to me that I could, with some justification, ask the Champions and mentors to please comply with these ideas, with the goal of having a more accurate picture to present. However, I'd rather seek a consensus for these, or something like them, as a formal procedure. Note that I labelled this thread [META DISCUSS]. I invite people with views on these ideas to start a thread or threads as appropriate. I would ask people, as a favor to me and others, not to use these ideas as a launchpad 'let's radically restructure instead.' These will reach a consensus or not, and other proposals will reach a consensus or not, but I submit that it is easier on us all to deal with them one-at-a-time. --benson
