Chris, I consider that proposal adopted, and I'm looking to build on it, by adding a few specifics. I plan to ask for helpers to ensure that every project has a Champion, for starts.
--benson On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hey Guys, > > Sorry but what are we discussing that's different from formalizing > the role of the Champion, this thread originally started by Bertrand, > and seconded by me and numerous others [1]? > > Cheers, > Chris > > [1] http://s.apache.org/U6w > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> > Date: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:43 PM > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC > >>Having read your wiki post, I find it a simple, considered upping of the >>game, which I think would be worth the effort of trying, especially as >>the mini-reports don't get to the board unless there are issues. There >>really could do with being a little more 'cost' to being a podling, or a >>mentor for that matter, and this proposal moves gently in that >>direction. >> >>If folks approve, we'll need to seek champions for all existing >>podlings, and decide what to do about those for which we cannot identify >>one. >> >>Upayavira >> >>On Mon, May 6, 2013, at 02:56 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt. >>> >>> In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if >>> those discussions drove some of us to distraction. >>> >>> A bit before the wiki crashed, I wrote: >>> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals >>> >>> The TL;DR version of this is: >>> >>> 1: let's take Champions seriously as a role >>> 2: let's ask for a minimal heartbeat from every podling every month >>> >>> As the person responsible for filing the report, it seems to me that I >>> could, with some justification, ask the Champions and mentors to please >>> comply with these ideas, with the goal of having a more accurate picture >>> to >>> present. However, I'd rather seek a consensus for these, or something >>> like >>> them, as a formal procedure. >>> >>> Note that I labelled this thread [META DISCUSS]. I invite people with >>> views >>> on these ideas to start a thread or threads as appropriate. I would ask >>> people, as a favor to me and others, not to use these ideas as a >>> launchpad >>> 'let's radically restructure instead.' These will reach a consensus or >>> not, >>> and other proposals will reach a consensus or not, but I submit that it >>> is >>> easier on us all to deal with them one-at-a-time. >>> >>> --benson >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
