Hey Guys, Sorry but what are we discussing that's different from formalizing the role of the Champion, this thread originally started by Bertrand, and seconded by me and numerous others [1]?
Cheers, Chris [1] http://s.apache.org/U6w ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Date: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:43 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC >Having read your wiki post, I find it a simple, considered upping of the >game, which I think would be worth the effort of trying, especially as >the mini-reports don't get to the board unless there are issues. There >really could do with being a little more 'cost' to being a podling, or a >mentor for that matter, and this proposal moves gently in that >direction. > >If folks approve, we'll need to seek champions for all existing >podlings, and decide what to do about those for which we cannot identify >one. > >Upayavira > >On Mon, May 6, 2013, at 02:56 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt. >> >> In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if >> those discussions drove some of us to distraction. >> >> A bit before the wiki crashed, I wrote: >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals >> >> The TL;DR version of this is: >> >> 1: let's take Champions seriously as a role >> 2: let's ask for a minimal heartbeat from every podling every month >> >> As the person responsible for filing the report, it seems to me that I >> could, with some justification, ask the Champions and mentors to please >> comply with these ideas, with the goal of having a more accurate picture >> to >> present. However, I'd rather seek a consensus for these, or something >> like >> them, as a formal procedure. >> >> Note that I labelled this thread [META DISCUSS]. I invite people with >> views >> on these ideas to start a thread or threads as appropriate. I would ask >> people, as a favor to me and others, not to use these ideas as a >> launchpad >> 'let's radically restructure instead.' These will reach a consensus or >> not, >> and other proposals will reach a consensus or not, but I submit that it >> is >> easier on us all to deal with them one-at-a-time. >> >> --benson > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
