Thank you Benson. And that food fight taught me a lot too and so did the conversations with you.
Cheers and happy holidays. Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Date: Friday, December 19, 2014 at 12:15 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: Incubator report sign-off >Back when I was trying to be the chair of this operation, we (ChrisM & >I & others) had a lovely old food fight about Chris M's proposal. It >seems to me that the fundamental situation as I saw it remains: this >is a proposal to the board to dissolve the IPMC and replace it with >something else. And just to be clear: I think that it's a _good idea_ >as a proposal to the board. > >I think that it amounts to making the Foundation's policy be: > > You can launch a new project in the Foundation if you can recruit >three foundation members (or others acceptable to the board) as the >nucleus of your PMC to teach you the ropes and ensure that policies >are respected; from the start, you're an 'incubating TLP' reporting to >the board like all other TLPs. > >I don't think that those three people have, necessarily to be coders. >But they have to be fully engaged -- they have to be members of the >community and the PMC. > >It seems to me that any scheme short of this is guaranteed to end up >right back where we are; struggling to simulate working PMCs with >shepherds and mentors and champions and, I don't know, curators and >wardens and counselors. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >