Hi Greg,
thanks for the input. We definitely appreciate it. We currently discussing that 
internally and it’s great to hear from someone who has been through this. The 
approach you took    with HAWQ is quite interesting.

Thanks again,
Patrick

Patrick Hilt
Chief Technology Officer
MIRACL

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Gregory Chase <gch...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> Having been through this twice now with "Pivotal GemFire" begatting "Apache
> Geode" and "Pivotal HAWQ" becoming "Apache HAWQ"....
> 
> If the current owner intends to allow infringement on the MIRACL brand as a
> policy by any user of Apache Miracl, then that should be ok.  In effect
> they will be putting "MIRACL" into the public domain.
> 
> If the owner intends to license "MIRACL" for Apache's use only - how does
> this extend to Apache's users?
> 
> For my company, we decided it was better to ensure the commercial
> distribution and the Apache projects did not infringe on each others
> brands.  And we have done both approaches:  suggest a new brand for Apache,
> and give an existing brand to Apache and rebrand the commercial
> distribution.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Nick Kew <n...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 08:48 +0900, Brian Spector wrote:
>>> Hi Alex, thank you for the suggestion, but from our point of view, as I
>>> outlined below, we would disadvantage the project as a whole by not
>> having
>>> the MIRACL name in it.
>>> 
>>> At the same time, I completely understand the concern that a company who
>>> creates a product based on OpenMiracl might feel themselves disadvantaged
>>> by having to state an attribution 'based on Apache OpenMiracl' while
>>> MIRACL, the company, sells a product called Datacenter Cryptosystem will
>>> also say 'based on Apache OpenMiracl'. We get that.
>> 
>> If folks are uneasy about OpenMiracl, how far does that extend?
>> Would (for example) a name taking the "Mira" stem be sufficiently
>> distinct for those expressing concerns here?  For example,
>> Mirabile (Latin pronunciation) kind-of offers an element of
>> historic continuity through the linguistic association with
>> the miracle.
>> 
>> --
>> Nick Kew
>> 
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