Given that Geronimo is nowadays more a kind of „EE commons“, it might fit in there.
LieGrue, strub > Am 08.08.2016 um 22:32 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > Le 8 août 2016 21:04, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> a écrit : >> >> Hi John, >> >> I've probably missed your ping. That's right that last month I didn't > sign for two reasons: >> 1. the report was empty >> 2. I don't see lot of activity on the BatchEE project: >> 2.1. There are some commits ( > https://github.com/apache/incubator-batchee/commits/master) but not super > active >> 2.2. Same for the mailing lists: >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-batchee-user/ >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-batchee-dev/ >> >> I'm not sure that BatchEE can be a project by its own as I'm not sure we > have a community around (especially an user community). > > To be honest got very various feesback from tomcat, standalone and tomee > users. Putting batchee behind tomee or geronimo would kill the remaining > 66% of users IMO and the community would be quite weird or not > heterogeneous at least (so not a real one). That to say i have a very mixes > feeling about umbrella projects. > >> I agree with Romain that BatchEE could be part of a kind of umbrella > project. >> If we have good sign that we have an user community around, then it makes > sense to discuss about graduation. >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> >> On 08/08/2016 05:57 PM, John D. Ament wrote: >>> >>> Romain, >>> >>> I've actually been pushing to get BatchEE to graduate for some time. > IMHO >>> there's no more benefit in the incubator for you guys. >>> >>> I'm pointing out the issue, as last month a mentor refused sign off due > to >>> lack of content in your report. The current report doesn't seem to be > much >>> better. I pinged JB off list, so far no answer there either. >>> >>> - John >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> Think we can be blamed to not have answered you but we took actions in >>>> general. That said Mark was more pointing out that if there are issues > with >>>> the content it should probably be sent to batchee too explaining why and >>>> what is expected/how we can enhance it. Typically this time you pointed > out >>>> it was "too empty" for you but I'm not sure there is a list I'm not > aware >>>> of but it would have been completely silently ignored cause batchee@ >>>> wouldn't have been notified of that. >>>> >>>> More generally it is quite hard to fill this report for stable projects >>>> (which doesn't mean they are not alive but just they are stable enough > to >>>> not get as much activity as BigData projects ;)). I'm not sure we should >>>> group them either in a new umbrella project or an existing one - > typically >>>> we could create an inconsistent bucket in term of user communities but >>>> consistent in term of maintainers/asf guys - or just keep it like that > but >>>> this "issue" will come back regularly I think and it would be great to >>>> "skip" these round trips if possible and have a clear statement about >>>> projects having by design an irregular activity - thinking to EE > projects >>>> which have a big activity after spec releases then mainly just > maintenance >>>> until next round. >>>> >>>> You probably guessed that I would love to avoid to let small projects be >>>> swallowed by bigger projects to skip this kind of lifecycle/activity > issue >>>> and avoid to create inconsistent (user) communities but I have to admit > I >>>> don't have a good view of the incubator freedom we can have on that > area. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >>>> <https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Wordpress Blog >>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Tomitriber >>>> <http://www.tomitribe.com> | JavaEE Factory >>>> <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> >>>> >>>> 2016-08-08 17:22 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:47 AM Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John, others. Would you please also add in the BatchEE amendments I > did >>>>>> today. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Next time a draft is sent, it will be picked up (its just copy and >>>> >>>> paste). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The feedback mechanism is great but we could improve this by also >>>> >>>> sending >>>>>> >>>>>> a mail to the respective podling if you have feedback. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know that I've personally sent feedback/questions to BatchEE before, >>>>> without any response from the podling. >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/262e43b2bb49d1ef5058a74f43b4f7 >>>>> c1e4ec6b9fb4f5896d28e95918@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/044be9dc4b10136a7025ca5e031b33 >>>>> 12e2dee8b93680483a754b594e@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E >>>>> >>>>> - John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That way we could fix left-overs and missed paragraphs much easier. >>>>>> >>>>>> txs and LieGrue, >>>>>> strub >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> jbono...@apache.org >> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
