On 2016-09-14 21:49, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by
its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we
all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is NetBeans
or, better yet, Apache NetBeans?
Sorry, guilty as charged. And as a proposed mentor: double penalty :-)
I'll try to do better in the future!
Yes, Oracle is handing over everything in terms of trademarks to Apache,
let's put aside that discussion since it's true, if you can point in the
proposal where this is not clear or can be clearer, tell me and we will
change/add/whatever. FYI -- no one creating independent products based on
Apache NetBeans cares what its name is.
Only two things are in discussion right now: (1) licensing [which has been
discussed quite a bit with Apache folks like Bertrand and Ate prior to the
proposal being published and we are comfortable we'll be able to solve
everything] and (2) infrastructure migration [which has been outlined
already, though we are working on a lot more details at the moment so that
everything will be crystal clear].
Cool!
I think the proposal looks great and so far I see no issues to be considered
blocking for entering the Incubator.
Regards, Ate
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Wade Chandler
<cons...@wadechandler.com> wrote:
Do you mean from the stand point of it being a Java based application,
or that some how
NetBeans and the Java TCK are related? I don’t think either is an impact
on NetBeans IMHO;
not any more than it is for the Eclipse IDE or IntelliJ. Do you mean
because it is being contributed
by Oracle perhaps? If so, does the donor have as much impact on
contributions as that once
adopted by Apache? I may be misunderstanding what you are asking. I am
not an employee
of Oracle; just an NB contributor.
I think the question is more along the lines of what else would be
required to produce a "canonical"
release of Apache Netbeans. If everything that is required is being
donated -- I think we're good.
IOW, the project must be self-contained and not depend on anything
still left behind the firewall
to do on-going development and most important releases. E.g. if I send
you a patch -- you can't
reject it on the grounds that some test behind Oracle's frewall I've
never seen failed. Stuff like
that.
On a related note, I haven't seen it explicitly mentioned in the
proposal, but I hope you guys do
realize that once this project is accepted the Netbeans brand belongs
to Apache. IOW, if Oracle
or anybody else ever want to have an independent product based on
Apache Netbeans they will
have to call it something else.
Thanks,
Roman.
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