Excellent cliff notes, and I'm really glad to see us surfacing the issues - and costs - of incubating such a large podling.
Question: do you have a rough forecast of how long this expense/extra infra burden will last? I.e. is this likely something we'll bear for 3-4 years and then we'll have migrated everything to a better home, or is this a long-term cost due to how big it all is? - Shane Daniel Gruno wrote on 9/24/16 6:17 AM: > Hi folks, > > I've been going over the requirements for NetBeans infrastructure, it's > ballpark costs, bandwidth, machines needed and so forth, and the cliff > notes are as follows: > > - 40-50TB/month in traffic required (mostly downloads+plugins) > - 8-13 machines/VMS are required > - Ballpark hardware costs are between $3k and $10k per year, depending > on how much we can move to existing infrastructure and how close we > come to the original setup. The most likely figure we are working with > is $4.9k, but we should be prepared for a larger cost, just in case. > - The maintenance will be split between infra (downloads, web site, CI, > new build machines) and the project (services, plugins, statistics), > which will undoubtedly incur additional costs in terms of infra time > spent on this, possibly to the tune of $10-20k in the initial phase. > > Certain services like the plugins hosting will rely on Legal giving the > go-ahead for it, otherwise we'll have to find other people willing to > host this. > > Other items like downloads may be offset by CDN providers offering their > assistance, but we should be prepared for this not being the case from > the beginning, thus the 40-50TB/month. Likewise, some machine costs > may be offset by cloud providers offering services for free. > > Thus, I would submit to the IPMC that they consider asking the board for > a budget of roughly $10k per year for the NetBeans project, as well as > the additional time required of Infrastructure to implement this into > the existing ASF infra. As we may be able to pool resources and utilize > the new hardware for multiple projects, the cost may go down in the > coming years, but this is the baseline I suggest we consider when > approving NetBeans as a new podling. > > With regards, > Daniel. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
