On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > Roman Shaposhnik wrote on 6/7/17 4:20 PM: >> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On 07/06/17 17:53, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> On 2017-06-06 11:59 (-0500), Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:25 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> While these are all great discussion points, I don't believe they're >>>>>>> relevant to incubator only and probably should have remained on the >>>>>>> legal-discuss list. Ignite graduated ~2 years ago. The incubator >>>>>>> probably >>>>>>> doesn't have an opinion about this, but it's good to know that the >>>>>>> policy >>>>>>> may change (and I do personally have an opinion on said types of >>>>>>> software). >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason I'm bringing it on the IPMC mailing list has nothing to do >>>>>> with how long >>>>>> ago Ignite graduated and everything to do with the following two points: >>>>>> 1. It can be very useful to the future podlings >>>>>> 2. I honestly don't know any other forum where I can meaningfully >>>>>> discuss changes to release policy >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll take advice on #2, of course. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who owns release policy? I presume it's VP Legal, which would suggest >>>>> legal-discuss. >>>> >>>> I would really be surprised if VP Legal actually *owned* it. This >>>> feels someplace between >>>> INFRA, ComDev and Legal, but it still doesn't answer the question >>>> who's a single throat >>>> to choke. >>> >>> Consider yourself surprised then. V.P. Legal owns the release policy. >> >> Is legal-discuss then the appropriate forum to actually build the consensus? >> I surely hope V.P. Legal won't play a BDFL with our release policy, will he? > > Huh?
Because last time BDFL tendencies flared up around ASF Legal it was painful all around. > Only the board and specifically authorized officers can set policy > like the release policy that all PMCs MUST follow. So yes, VP Legal is > the final determiner of release policy updates, not anyone else. > > legal-discuss@ is the best place to bring any specific requests from > project(s) to change the actual policy itself. But first it would be > useful to get some rough consensus on some of those specific requests > here from the IPMC or from ComDev. That was my very question: what is the right forum. You could've just answered that. So it is IPMC, ComDev, both? Seriously WHERE do I have to move this thread to? > Note that ComDev is a PMC itself, and has no authority to set *policy* > for other PMCs. But they do provide a lot of good docs and best > practices, and dev@community is becoming quite a good cross-project > discussion area, so it's a good place to get other feedback on a proposal. Sure. We all know that. Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
