This was an outcome of the last time the IPMC processes were challenged. 
Basically the board agreed that in cases where the initial PMC consisted of 
plenty of existing experienced ASF people there was no need for incubation.

There was never an intention of going straight to TLP if there was not 
sufficient experience in the PMC to start with.

Ross

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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:51 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org; sha...@apache.org
Subject: Re: List of Projects that went straight to Top Level Projects

Ah, OK. I’d be interested in the outcome of that research too. I don’t
think it’s common to skip incubation and I’m sure a lot would not be
learned by skipping it.

Gj

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 13:44, <sha...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Geertjan
>
> Thanks for the email and I'm not thinking of doing it at all.
>
> I'm planning to do some research for on the embedding of ASF culture and
> incubator is one of the main way this happens. Sometimes as in the cases
> of the projects I mentioned, the process is bypassed so one of the
> things I'd like to investigate is the effect of missing out on
> incubation. My question about the list of projects that went to TLP was
> more about making sure I have as much data as possible to base my
> research on.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
> On 31. 03. 19 13:36, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > I would highly recommend that you don’t do this. What would be the reason
> > to go straight to TLP? There’s a lot to learn and many mistakes to make,
> > and speaking from experience, it is best to learn and make mistakes in
> the
> > incubator, which is precisely its purpose.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 13:28, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if there is a list of projects that bypassed
> incubation?
> >> For example - I know a couple of projects Royale and Kibble that went
> >> straight to TLP. Is there a list anywhere for all projects like this?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Sharan
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