On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 2:28 PM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:11 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Most of the projects mentioned so far have been “internal” > > > Only because all the umbrella-derived projects haven't been mentioned. Most > of that "spin out to a TLP" was done a decade ago, so they've been omitted > from discussion. > > > > - code developed to help run the ASF. “External” projects also go > > straight-to-TLP and are more important because they have many more users > > and greater impact on the world. > > > > I recall only two "external" projects have gone straight-to-TLP: Serf, > Zest/Polygene. I'm guessing Dave, et al, will surface others, if they > exist. I would disagree with your latter statement; they went to TLP based > on oversight, rather than on userbase/impact. > > I would suggest: the 90% of straight-to-TLP have been "internal" or > "spun-out".
My rough cut: Straight to TLP: Bahir, DRAT, Kibble, Orc, Serf, STeVe, Whimsy, Zest Pre-incubator: Ant, Avalon, Cocoon, DB, HTTP Server, Jakarta, Perl, PHP, TCL, XML Spun out from elsewhere: Archiva, Arrow, Avro, Axis, BookkeeperA, Camel, Continuum, Excalibur, Forrest, Gump, Hadoop, HBase, HiveMind, HTTPComponents, JAMES, JMeter, Karaf, Logging Services, Lucene, Mahout, Maven, Mina, POI, Quetzalcoatl, Royale, Santuario, Shale, Struts, Tiles, Tomcat, Turbine, Velocity, Web Services< Xalan, Xerces, XML Graphics, Yetus, Zookepper Non-code PMC: Attic, Community Development, Incubator, Labs, Public Relations - Sam Ruby --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org