There is now a link to a potential download page, which is great. However, the install page does not make it obvious that the 0.4.1 release is not an ASF release. That information should be shown prominently at the start of the page, not buried in a note near the end.
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 16:07, Shawn Yang <shawn.ck.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I updated it in the PR > https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury-site/pull/112. Sorry for my last > reply, I forgot to put the PR link. > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:22 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 14:05, Shawn Yang <shawn.ck.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > I updated the content in the install doc and added notes that this is > > not > > > an ASF release. > > > > > > And added a download page for download and verify source release only. > > > Currently this page is basically empty, but will be updated once this > > vote > > > is done, and updated > > > to closer.lua according to download-scripts[1]. > > > > > > The cross-links to each other are also added. > > > > I don't see these changes on the fury.apache.org website. > > Are they published anywhere? > > > > > 1. https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-scripts > > > > > > Thanks again for pointing those issues out. > > > > > > --------- > > > Best Regards, > > > Chaokun Yang > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 8:22 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 13:08, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > They could fix the page now, while waiting for the release vote to > > > > > complete. > > > > > > > > > > Make sense. At least remove the page/content now to indicate "no > > Apache > > > > > release" now. Then it won't be some "forth and back" updates. It's a > > > > timing > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > > > > Note that the page needs more than just an update to version > > numbers. > > > > > > It needs closer.lua links to the source bundle, links to KEYS, sigs > > > > > > and hashes, and verification instructions. > > > > > > > > > > Such an install page can be a simplified quick start page. I suppose > > you > > > > > refer to a download page like [1]. > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html > > > > > > > > Yes, though ideally use closer.lua rather than closer.cgi. > > > > > > > > > And yes, Fury doesn't have a download page yet, and they should add > > one. > > > > > > > > Agreed. > > > > > > > > > But in my experience it's different from a quickstart install page, > > like > > > > > [2] vs [3]. > > > > > > > > Yes, but that should not be at the expense of a source download page. > > > > It must be easy to find the source download. > > > > The website and the announcement email must link to the official > > download > > > > page. > > > > > > > > The download and install pages could be cross-linked. > > > > > > > > > [2] https://opendal.apache.org/docs/quickstart#java-binding > > > > > [3] https://opendal.apache.org/download > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月23日周二 20:00写道： > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 12:46, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be very disappointed if the podling published the code > > > > > > > > *knowing* that the download page is missing or incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IIUC Fury will update the content and delete all the references > > to > > > > prior > > > > > > > releases. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that the page needs more than just an update to version > > numbers. > > > > > > It needs closer.lua links to the source bundle, links to KEYS, sigs > > > > > > and hashes, and verification instrructions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or instead, Fury can keep these references and state clearly it's > > > > prior > > > > > > > releases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My comment above is with an assumption that prior releases ref > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > removed. But if the PPMC wants to keep it, they should update the > > > > > > > description. > > > > > > > > > > > > They could fix the page now, while waiting for the release vote to > > > > > > complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月23日周二 19:35写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 09:42, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no indication that 0.4.1 is not an ASF release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may found that the group id is not org.apache.fury also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whilst this is true, it is still not obvious that this is not > > an > > > > ASF > > > > > > > > release; it is easy to overlook this minor detail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is no such indication for the GoLang, Javascript > > or > > > > Rust > > > > > > > > binaries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an intermediate state that we would update the > > content > > > > as: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dependency> > > > > > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.fury</groupId> > > > > > > > > > <artifactId>fury-core</artifactId> > > > > > > > > > <version>0.5.0</version> > > > > > > > > > </dependency> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then the content is correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strictly speaking the content of the Maven reference to 0.4.1 > > is > > > > not > > > > > > > > 'incorrect'. > > > > > > > > The problem is that the page does not make it clear that the > > > > release > > > > > > > > is not an ASF release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's OK to refer to prior releases, but the reader must be > > clearly > > > > > > > > informed of their provenance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we make any workaround or patch to make > > > > > > > > > it "look good", it would be updated as soon as 0.5.0 is > > > > released. So > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > won't treat that as a release blocker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be very disappointed if the podling published the code > > > > > > > > *knowing* that the download page is missing or incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月23日周二 15:59写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 10:11, PJ Fanning < > > fannin...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > > > > > > This email thread is a vote for an RC. If this vote > > passes, > > > > > > v0.5.0 > > > > > > > > > > > will be the first release of Fury since it became a > > podling. > > > > > > > > > > > We will add a download page but at the moment, there is > > > > nothing > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > link to there (except perhaps a KEYS file). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Install page does need to be updated to not mention > > > > > > snapshots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 0.5.0 is to be the first ASF release, then the Install > > page > > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > misleading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no indication that 0.4.1 is not an ASF release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > PJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 10:35, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 at 16:26, Shawn Yang < > > > > > > shawn.ck.y...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a call for the vote to release Apache > > > > > > Fury(Incubating) > > > > > > > > > > v0.5.0-rc3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Apache Fury community has voted and approved the > > > > release > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fury(incubating) v0.5.0-rc3. We now kindly request > > the > > > > IPMC > > > > > > > > members > > > > > > > > > > > > > review and vote for this release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Fury(incubating) - A blazingly fast > > multi-language > > > > > > > > > > serialization > > > > > > > > > > > > > framework powered by JIT and zero-copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fury community vote thread: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/g49qt1v99d0ncfvonng39lcs1s56m7v5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vote result thread: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/9rtl03g650pojyfb5d67785tffyo4hbs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The release candidate: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/fury/0.5.0-rc3/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This release has been signed with a PGP available > > here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/fury/KEYS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could not find a proper download page for the > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > This must have links to the source bundle which must > > use > > > > > > > > closer.lua, > > > > > > > > > > > > as well as links to KEYS, sigs and hashes, with > > > > instructions on > > > > > > > > how to > > > > > > > > > > > > validate downloads. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is an install page on the website at > > > > > > > > > > > > https://fury.apache.org/docs/start/install, but that > > does > > > > not > > > > > > > > link to > > > > > > > > > > > > any source bundle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, the install page links to nightly > > snapshots; > > > > this > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed except on a page intended for Fury developers, > > who > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > made aware that nightly code has not been vetted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Git tag for the release: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/releases/tag/v0.5.0-rc3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Git commit for the release: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/commit/fae06330edd049bb960536e978a45b97bca66faf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven staging repo: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachefury-1003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to Build and Test, please refer to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/blob/main/docs/guide/DEVELOPMENT.md > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until > > the > > > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > > > > > > of votes is reached. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote accordingly: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 approve > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +0 no opinion > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about apache fury, please see > > > > > > > > https://fury.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checklist for reference: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] Download links are valid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] Checksums and signatures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] LICENSE/NOTICE files exist > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] No unexpected binary files > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] All source files have ASF headers > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] Can compile from source > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chaokun Yang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
