on 10/17/01 9:36 PM, "Tim Vernum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I first read the original mail my reaction was "Someone with > a homeless project looking for an owner". I must be tainted from having been around here so long. I see right through his proposal. > In fact Paul's most recent mail says > "As a result of this, we are interested in building a market > through open source." > Which has an air of "we can't afford to do this ourselves so we're > hoping that we can utilise the Apache resources to get our product > of the ground". Yes, that is what I saw right away. Add on to the fact that he has zero OSS experience, a contribution from him would not bring anything more than a code base and a lot of headaches for us to bring him up to speed on how to run an OSS project. Jakarta is not a dumping ground for code. > There's nothing _wrong_ with that - my impression is that part of > Sun's motive for donating to Jakarta is to take advantage of the > resources/name of Apache to promote their technology. Actually, it is a slightly different and much much more drawn out story with Sun. > It can be a win-win situation For the most part, with Sun, it has been a win-win solution. Several Jakarta developers (Costin/Craig/Pier are the first people that come to my mind) have gone on to become Sun employees* and that makes me happy to see them gainfully employed doing what they love to do. That said, Tomcat 3.0 wasn't a pretty code base at all and a lot of work has gone into cleaning it up (as well as re-writing it from scratch). * Costin recently left to go to another Apache-centric company...I'm sure his resume of working with Jakarta didn't hurt him. :-) > , but if no one here thinks the > project is worth being involved in, then there's no reason > for the PMC et al. to put time/resources into it. I agree. -jon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]