+1 to everything Peter says here. 

-Ted.

Peter Donald wrote:
> I must have missed that bit. The PMC serves a useful purpose (effectively
> policing/fixing things when it is absiolutely necessary and encouragiung
> growth in the "Apache Spirit")

...

> So I keep hearing everyone say and I watch with amusement as every new
> project is brought to Jakarta ;)
> 
> Personally I think that jakarta is the only place that has the presence to
> actually achieve something like that. Eclipse/netbeans are too vendor
> specific, sourceforge is not a community, GNU people generally consider java
> "a blight upon the free software world" or at least their leader does, Linux
> people don't like it because it is OS-agnostic (and they want linux to be a
> required component rather than one of a bunch).

...
 
> > Jakarta can't grow forever.
> 
> Why not ?
> 
> > When do you decide to actually step up and try to make a change?
> 
> Never if you think they are fine as they are ;)

...

> With the the high threshold of entry I doubt jakarta will ever be in the same
> category as sourceforge - I can't see that as anything but a strawman that is
> brought up every now and again ;)
> 
> --
> Cheers,
> 
> Pete


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