On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 12:42, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > Ted Husted wrote: > > > > My concern would be that this promotes a "We are Borg" attitude. > > > > This is exactly why I think setting up a separate project would be a > good idea. A project that would realize the concept of a platform that > uses open tools (as opposed to jakarta-only tools). Though of course it > will most likely be 70-80% Jakarta based. >
+1 -- I think eventually it could be brought to Jakarta if it was successful. > > Here is a draft of proposed project description: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Project XYZ (replace with a catchy name :-)) is dedicated to creation of > development and deployment platform for Java web applications. It is > based on other open technologies. Each one of such technologies > specializes in a certain area of web application building, such as XML, > HTML creation, database access, logging, Java development process > support, etc. Project XYZ is a fusion of these technologies into a Java > server solution that covers all parts of the spectrum. Also it > introduces extensions (... need to be defined ...). > > Other project goals are: > > - to create a lower entry barrier for web application developers to use > state of the art technology by providing a single full solution "that works" > - to realize our vision of the best design and development practices > - .... > +1 > > Project goals are NOT: > > - to set the only acceptable way of doing things in Java > - to reduce the importance of technologies that are not in the core of > XYZ project > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Here is a comparison to show why such a project is needed and why this > is a good thing. Take Linux example. How many people in the world could > take kernel code and GNU compiler and make a system that even boots? > With the emergence of companies like RedHat, people received this > missing piece - packaging. It was at least as important as kernel code > itself. And RedHat is not the only way to package Linux, so nobody > really thinks that RedHat "stole Linux". > -1 - You'll have some issues basing a project on GNU stuff. Legal issues. You have to make sure whatever it is -- is LGPL not GPL...otherwise you'll need good lawyers to prove the GPL virus clause invalid. > I think here we have a similar situation - full platform solution will > make life easier for many people, while no harm will be done to the > foundation projects and their alternatives. +1 -Andy > -- > ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- > - Andrei (a.k.a. Andrus) Adamchik > http://objectstyle.org > list email: andrus-jk at objectstyle dot org > personal email: andrus at objectstyle dot org > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
