Jeff,

Thanks for the link to this article. I found it to be well researched,
well written and instructive.  The "quodque pro quo" twist is rather
elegant, perhaps too elegant. From the comments on this list, I think that
most programmers tend to ignore licensing considerations. Does boring
lawyer mumbo-jumbo sound familiar?

Licensing issues are very confusing, at least in my mind. Putting aside our
reservations against the Free Software Foundation or the GPL, Richard
Stallman has authored make, gnu c compiler, and the beloved
emacs. This is more than most developers will achieve in 10 lifetimes,
yours humbly included. It is fascinating that he put so much energy in
to this copyleft vision and how far he carried it. My hat is off to RMS.

Regards, Ceki

At 22:16 05.03.2002 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Is there a page somewhere at apache.org, explaining why anyone would want to
>switch from GPL to ASL? The GNU.org site paints a very inspiring picture of a
>world of Free Software. It would be nice if there was an Apache equivalent
>somewhere explaining the Apache philosophy. This could be used as 
>ammunition by
>people trying to "convert" useful GPL'ed projects. I'm sure many Jakarta
>members have found themselves in this situation.
>
>Personal perspective: I know I was quite shocked when I first heard someone
>here say "GPL sucks" (back in fighting-with-webmacro days:). I didn't know how
>to take it. What kind of philistine wouldn't want RMS's vision of Free 
>Software
>to come true? It took me a long time (as a university student) to understand
>why the GPL truly does suck as a license for business use.
>
>So, a) is there anything out there already, and b) if not, anyone want to
>volunteer? :) I'm not very qualified, but could certainly provide 
>something for
>a "testimonial" section.
>
>Here's a starting resource:
>
>http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a//policy/2001/12/12/transition.html
>
>"       Working Without Copyleft
>
>   It's possible to be an ardent supporter of open source development
>   and not be a fan of copyleft and the General Public License. In this
>   article the authors -- software developers -- relate how they came to
>   embrace copyleft, became disillusioned with its limitations, and
>   consequently turned away from it.
>"
>
>--Jeff
>
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