Re: Naming issues

[Nicola Ken Barozzi]

Henri Yandell wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Therefor I still think Jakarta Commons should fix their naming scheme.
But that will have to be brought up there, not here.

It's completely impractical, and will hurt Jakarta immensely.

Oh, well, now that I think of it, this is only for projects that have
already been released...

Other opinions?

Has everyone forgotten that it's not just commons that uses
org.apache.<projectName> as their java package name within Jakarta.

Ant is org.apache.tools.ant

Turbine is org.apache.turbine
Velocity is org.apache.velocity
Struts is org.apache.struts
etc.

Sure, and Turbine will get a turbine.apache.org site, Ant an
ant.apache.org site... but Commons?

Bear in mind this is not just a website change. It breaks backwards
compatibility of all jakarta projects [at least ones people code against]
and will be confusing to users.

Exactly what I said ;-)

Citing myself: "It's completely impractical, and will hurt Jakarta immensely."

I wanted to highlight how following the other projects in the migration would effectively look like all code from Jakarta Commons should go into Apache Commons... hinting that instead of changing packagenames we could change project. A provocation, but still a possibility.

Why not just decide to move the Jakarta Commons projects to Commons and
the Sandbox ones to Incubator?

Some of the Sandbox ones are blatant Commons projects which just aren't
ready yet. I know that this is probably acceptable to the Incubator
concept but wanted to make sure.

Yes, in fact I'm ready to move to incubator the code of Morphos, which has some interested developers, two semi-active developers and no community yet.

Equally, when does something go from Incubator to Commons? In Jakarta it
seems to be on release of a 1.0. Do things have to stay in Incubator until
they have a 1.0 release?

When the community is deemed to be ready, that is when it works well following the Apache Project Guidelines, both in facts and spirit.

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Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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