On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:23:25 -0500 (EST) Henri Yandell wrote: > Agreed. Andy's highlighted the issue and I'm sure there'll be more > aggressiveness on pushing threads that don't need to remain closed to this > open forum.
About the issue of openness and closeness: board@ is *public* for all the ASF members. (Any ASF members can be a *read only member* to the board@ list) board@ is open list? close list? WS (WebServices) project discuss most of the important issues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the same time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is open list? close list? -------------------------------------------------------------- I think that jakarta should choose an appropriate method which suffices for most of the jakarta committers' needs. For example: Create topics for discussion -- PMC list Vote -- general@ (or another appropriate list : important issues) PMC list (trivial issues) Report to all the jakarta committers -- general@ -------------------------------------------------------------- Also, please read this (Roy T. Fielding said @ incubator list at Fri, 26 Sep 2003) >> all the jakarta committers and PMC members -- > A release requires 3 +1 and a majority of those voting, wherein > the only people allowed to vote are the PMC responsible for that > code. In other words, the usual rules apply -- it is simply harder > to get the votes. -- > According to the bylaws, the only people authorized to make > decisions > on behalf of the ASF (including the decision to release code to the > general > public) are officers or the PMC responsible for the project. All other > votes are to be ignored or considered advisory only, and no I don't care > how long some of our umbrella projects have been ignoring that fact. It seems that most of the committers in jakarta do not know this fact. Before the discussion of *openness/closeness*, I think we should have common understanding on this. Regards, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]