Rahul Akolkar wrote: > On 6/9/06, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rahul Akolkar wrote: > <snip/> >> > >> > Per the umbrella concern, the question then becomes what -- if any -- >> > are the mitigating factors that can address such a concern with >> > regards to this proposal. Based on Hen's email, seems like the ball is >> > still in the board's court -- as we wait for the next meeting -- so >> > maybe its premature to discuss if we should be trying to address those >> > comments yet? >> >> I would also like to understand exactly what the problem is and what >> mitigating steps may be possible. In particular, I would very much >> appreciate a definition of "umbrella" that allows Geronimo, Logging, >> Jakarta Commons, DB, XML, Web Services and Struts, but somehow >> disallows Testing. >> > <snap/> > > While it may make sense to say something along those lines in a larger > context, I do not believe this can be part of any central argument > towards the cause. > > If we're going to stand, we are going to do it on the basis of the > merit of our proposal and the community support for it, rather than > some sort of comparative analysis. That's not what I meant. If the objection is "this looks like an umbrella, and umbrellas are evil" it is fair and reasonable for us to ask what exactly is meant by an umbrella so that we can address the specific concerns directly.
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