On 6/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
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> > Per the umbrella concern, the question then becomes what -- if any -- > are the mitigating factors that can address such a concern with > regards to this proposal. Based on Hen's email, seems like the ball is > still in the board's court -- as we wait for the next meeting -- so > maybe its premature to discuss if we should be trying to address those > comments yet? It's more in our court to come up with something to convince them I think. I asked them a couple of times for a bit more in the way of info to bring back, but didn't get a reply (by memory from the meeting wasn't very good - it lasted 2.5 hrs).
<snap/> I actually think of this as a two-step process: Step 0: Convince you (Hen, the "messenger", seem a bit tentative at this point?). Step 1: Convince them. The umbrella concern is genuine, IMO. The legend may possibly (pure speculation) have also grown due to the fact that we said we won't discriminate based on programming language. To me, the crux of Felipe's answer to that question was the bit about an existing community and developers willing to consistently (as consistent as you can be on your own time) invest time into the project. I think we have said that any codebase (beyond the seed set) that comes into Testing will have to have: a) A developer base willing to invest energies b) Existing community (for any that get incubated in -- ofcourse, that will be overseen by the Incubator as well) c) Binding support that will look for (a) and (b), amongst other things Do we agree on this? Any other comments? Beyond that, IMO, it comes to having the board understand that we are as discerning of the umbrella concern as they are. And that the benefits seem to outweigh this concern.
Mostly I think we need to detail the cross-ASF interest in the idea.
<snap/> Until now, we have seen interest from folks who are participants in Jakarta, Tomcat and Tapestry (and possibly more, I didn't consult any resource to check where all of the participants' interests lie). And I suspect that is only because we haven't talked much about Testing outside Jakarta (AFAIK). Towards the feedback in the initial email in this thread then, IMO, this doesn't feel artificial (perhaps we need some more clarification what that meant in the first place). -Rahul
Otherwise Jakarta Test Components it is ;) [joke] Hen
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