-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dylan Carlson wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2005 16:55, Aron Griffis wrote: > >>I think that attempting to take Gentoo in the "enterprise" direction >>is a mistake. I think that we are a hobbyist distribution. This >>doesn't mean that we should not strive to meet some of the enterprise >>goals. Those things can be important to hobbyists too. But I don't >>think we should be aiming for corporate America. > > > I've always felt Gentoo is better as a base or platform. There's certainly > enough power in the tools we provide for anyone to roll something > "enterprise" based upon our work. Or for any other purpose, including > binary-only. There is power in Gentoo, the way you set things up, the choice provided, the overall goal of Gentoo. There is not power in our tools. Our tools are in fact underpowered IMHO. Thats one of the areas where I think work is really needed, and a lot of what I want to work on is portage-related tools. Much of this requires new portage API's which are in progress but take a lot of work.
There is an installer project that will in principle facilitate large scale Gentoo deployments, there is a GLEP for a stable tree, there is hardened, and all of those are great. > > Much in the same way as there are numerous distros that ARE Debian -- > derived from and cooperative with, but not separate from. > > People could always try to fork, too, but many of us know how well that > went for people who have tried... > Much better to be a meta meta distro such as Ubuntu that runs off of a core gentoo install than to fork stuff, especially at present. > Cheers, > I think in the end, Gentoo is too much a dynamic entity to be used for a stable enterprise rollout. You would need something debianesque with releases, or a Gentoo Snapshot ( say 2005.0 with bugfixes/security ). I wonder at the allocation of things ( say the mySQL profile ) and when things like that stay on Gentoo-owned hardware, vs. something like breakmygentoo which is 3rd party. However I have faith that the managers will enforce whatever is decided. The whole point of this Open Source stuff anyway is to adapt things however you need them, and Enterprise or not everyone has that option. - -Ajec -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBQqUDLWzglR5RwbyYAQIfhw//fPmwEp18hXzyHlORpKRQw3EXH2niA7cR 0RsRv8Y4fmM7AtdKQye0+S9tO6BmDRkKYKrv0Kuk1xg5b7BhqyUmxZPUj3QhGRps 4xXA6xtOWmf9w+wwYN/q9eV/aS/KRtz6Ay3q2Tq8lx+cmaBr6qPJlvpaA+SsPxR4 YDomt/u0L1TcX/IkbnCDlb5kRz9BeyB3PC1peOPsFKikaMe32dpWqohmA9z3Jf/r W4SmeN1wRXkY3JPbjuYT8GzglkFYX6ZzlfalFBunncBKpF64pZ4Is6SAUPfSnCA4 GKYLAVWxvXp1LbNasnHQqebSeKNfWVmopnNdzbcpV3PhxN7stNW7O8410HBWS9Wu IgXPcXdm0C4qWYU4eU7PEjUlET3aKfgb+wMliy0PyarvnkoyB9jF7UIVI/RC7Uxu CvxV3STrnaovSBwYJeJSa9E0e8Yqkbk5i+RKTFrYNqj2slknJUseZjKT96DsKvoe BiHOkjV+rzhe2CskYQEVyAIig1L0b9my5gJnBE4nHjJUvIotqu+reYHwC1tX2hLP Sm5wmCBX6T13nawVPdwUwelF5RrpTFWVp+g26BbE6C1TaWHScNOVjCbLmJ30T6vy P7nfo4E3dJVsLLozkw5hiJcgM9xRQKOIwRXr0F4bkE94DQv7lNZdCWfSwQkzaQKH LuBR+0NSYyU= =GBBm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list