On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:37, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > I'd prefer that people don't come to depend on metabuilds at all. OK, we can do this.
> See > http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/porting_to_modular_x_howto.txt. That file says there won't be any x11-related virtuals anymore. Are you sure no package uses it in the sense of 'any X server' instead of 'any X client libs+headers'? > Couple of ideas here. > > 1) We do as you suggest, and make people emerge xorg-x11 > 2) KDE could add a USE=X and dep X? ( xorg-server ) (2) is bad for several reasons: Firstly, as I said in my other replies, this would change the current meaning of the X USE flag. The original meaning would stay without a flag. Today it means 'enable support for clienside X11'. You want to make it mean 'install X11 server'. If I'm building a headless box without an X11 server, but I do want to emerge KDE and run it over ssh -Y from another box, I need two useflags to specify this. But even if we introduce a new USE flag 'Xserver', on by default where X is on by default, and used as you describe above, the problems I describe below will remain. Secondly, there can be more than one X11 server (kdrive, etc). Depending on xorg-server is bad. If anything, we should introduce a virtual/x11-server. Thirdly, it's a 'convenience dep': whether xorg-server is installed or not won't affect the behavior of KDE in any way (given a working DISPLAY setting). Finally, it requires that extra change to (ideally) all X11 client apps. It's not intuitive, and so easy to forget when writing new ebuilds. > We will still install some fonts, but not all, and I'll note that in the > metabuilds text. Which ones? Selected how? I'm asking because I don't want to work too hard on deciding which fonts KDE should depend on :-) -- Dan Armak Gentoo Linux developer (KDE) Public GPG key: http://dev.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key Fingerprint: DD70 DBF9 E3D4 6CB9 2FDD 0069 508D 9143 8D5F 8951
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