On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 06:13:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> ignored *what* then ?  you requested USE=vanilla control ssp, i said no and 
> i'll add support for USE=nossp ... you requested USE/stub control, i said no, 
> go delete the stubs

USE=nossp existed before USE=vanilla did. To be sure I'm remembering
right, I checked `cvs log toolchain.eclass`. In order, probably skipping
a few steps:

1- No SSP
2- Choice between SSP [USE=-nossp] and stub patches [USE=nossp].
   USE=vanilla didn't exist.
3- Choice between SSP [USE="-nossp -vanilla"], stub patches
    [USE="nossp -vanilla"], and nothing [USE="vanilla"]
4- Choice between SSP [USE=-nossp] and stub patches [USE=nossp]
   USE=vanilla exists but has no effect on SSP.

It was during 2 that I asked for a way to disable stub patches for
myself (and not as part of the official ebuild), and you said to delete
them. That was good enough for me during 2. We are now in 4.

> i dont see what else you're referring to ... be specific, vague claims only 
> lead to wasting of both our times

I hope this is specific enough: toolchain.eclass revision 1.234
(separating ssp/... from vanilla) log message:
"ssp/pie/htb have their own USE flags sep from vanilla, so people can 
 utilize those"
when in fact the old USE=vanilla behaviour is unavailable now. You have
never (as far as I know) answered whether it was intended to keep the
old behaviour as an option, and if it wasn't, why the log message is
what it is.

> all bets are off now then ... with Halcy0n leaving us, that leaves me as the 
> only person maintaining the toolchain (there are few devs who contribute 
> fixes for their ports and it helps out a ton, but that doesnt really count as 
> being fully responsible for the toolchain packages).

I'll keep that in mind, I wasn't aware that the other toolchain guys
handle specific parts of the toolchain packages only. Even if I disagree
with some specific decisions, nice job overall, then.
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