On 07/31/2011 05:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300
> Samuli Suominen <ssuomi...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> I dislike the IUSE="+static" some packages are currently doing to
>> workaround this, instead of moving the needed shared libs to /
>>
>> I dislike the idea of pciutils and usbutils database(s) in
>> non-standard location in / to keep udev working
>>
>> I dislike the idea of moving libglib-2.0, libdbus-1, libdbus-glib-1,
>> and couple of dozen more libs to /
>>
>> I dislike the idea of maintaining and keeping track of the files in /
>> using files from /usr. Does any of the PMs have check for this, like
>> NEEDED entries? I can imagine this getting past the maintainers easily
>> otherwise
>>
>> Most likely still not seeing the full picture here, and just
>> scratching the surface...
>> Despite that, I don't have any strong opinion on any of this, just
>> need to know if I should start moving the files over
> 
> Honestly, I'd rather see system libs and apps being moved to /usr
> rather than the opposite. IMO the benefit of getting a clear tree is
> greater than benefits of having separate fs for 'system' and
> 'non-system' packages which actually tend to randomly depend one on
> another.

that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide useful
case for separate /usr, or they have been very vague like adding 1+1 on
/ and /usr filesystem sizes and counting the risk of corrupted
filesystem from that (one word: backup)
and even then they can go with dracut and have the initramfs mount the
/usr before init
dracut with it's externsive modules covers the other mentioned cases too

so pursuing for getting rid of shared/static -workarounds and / files
depending on /usr files constistency

not to mention avoiding moving a lot of files to / for pursuing that
otherwise

this is starting to look good:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr


> 
> What's the point of having shared /usr if you need to keep /bin, /lib,
> /sbin in sync anyway? And considering the above, the number of files to
> keep separate & synced is growing, and thus our potential / gets bigger
> and bigger.
> 


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