-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 01-08-2011 08:31, Eray Aslan wrote: > On 2011-08-01 10:23 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide >> useful case for separate /usr, or they have been very vague > > I will switch if I have to but saying / and /usr on the same > filesystem is the better technical solution just annoys me. > > I understand if going against upstream and keeping them seperate is > not worth the hassle and noone steps up to do it. But then we should > say so. Please don't kid yourself (or others).
I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse "the game". It's those that want to break existing policies and conventions that have to justify why they want to do that, not those that want to keep using what has worked for years. You may not need or like it, but I want to be able to use partition schemes like the following without needing to use an initramfs: /dev/md4 /boot /dev/md2 / /dev/sda1 swap /dev/sdb1 swap /dev/vg/home /home /dev/vg/usr /usr /dev/vg/portage /usr/portage /dev/vg/distfiles /usr/portage/distfiles /dev/vg/var /var /dev/vg/vtmp /var/tmp /dev/vg/www /var/www /dev/vg/repos /home/repositories /dev/vg/release /home/release Also, desktop users that don't split the /usr path might not like the "stress" that /usr/portage will add to the / partition - not to talk about the size and inode constraints. With the above design, I have on a system the following disk space use: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 9,4G 262M 8,7G 3% / I'm growing tired of how complex and over-designed desktop technologies that hide stuff from the users keep trying to break the "unix way" and convince us they're "awesome". No, I don't need or want *kit, groups exist for something. No, applications that do "magic stuff" with dbus and xml (and I like xml) on the users back and hide how X work aren't a "good thing(tm)". Finally, Gentoo's init system is and will likely be for a long time openrc, so stop trying to push crazy or experimental init systems - most with a seemingly "poor design" and unable to do what an init system needs to do (start and stop services). - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJONm+6AAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEP10wP/ifqJFPJxbpbhJfMc2+UpvAj Danv5I4hRhOhixfz5ni63Kw++kFmxJ2o0oSxmPOMUuIZgdakDAQFAMPhGnTZc6l6 /cqrraZjM215fcJLq3mzq2KfC+c6l45gLv87sagmwuTLLSDnFbXllY2vNo2KgQ/u Brf1IxqBMQeesC21gVNyewnLpWe/hPLqoigIYepBQt4Fg3GxhRYQuVcKC/oE9mO2 Z/0pOJW42fE5i5+VZRPUb7q9WC2bAlVQymRDc+Lt/b6f6VUIFa+SVgcCAkE2HoPo Xue+jiMNCDAvWuqmGeRGySDmAp3VtqobHjaaVkLXDJOG14u0HmP3qXK9oLtSA3Fz FUaL8yNjfjlZ94ntRZax2WCFat66tX03pF4QC/EQfnVx+8dgMUH3sop/s8Ay1pLX Q05sXhoEIyNMOfo04IJt6aQqgLqKHuxL9dTu+q1dN7pnQ5CGZ027W6XCe8251UIe 6wmyVwaQPQKSZ0N7j0LkqujFmCjPoFRCAN9QRPMM9g4rYTuVsjm49BjgFFFegQ+y qTM3lvriQR34a1x1khnnb44g+1611q92CuTjcr6B9Ho1IY6Osqk68y3hA2WTZ0+p S6+cKiBlnA1Q6+2lqcVP89Fb5WP44LHc5xmAvyzfx5LJsQ3XvINgrrx9kGbvgge7 wIY+OXxnZD8oW0MpiYO2 =ybUS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----