On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires >> systemd. >> >> What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this >> restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this >> eye-candy as well. >> >> I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an >> uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light. >> >> Facts, pls! >> >> Michael >> >> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478252 > > To stabilize gnome-3.6, we would need > 1. one or (preferably) two *active* gentoo developers; > 2. who are familiar with gnome's internals and are able to backport > bugfixes from 3.8/3.10 without support from upstream developers; and > 3. who volunteer to run openrc+gnome-3.6 for a long time on their main > machines so that they can give a stable 3.6 the support that the word > 'stable' implies. > > We do not have such people on the gnome team. >
Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision. It'll cause lots of pain for users that suddenly can't start lvm properly and other nasty landmines hidden in the "upgrade path". By stabilizing this early you're causing lots of extra work for others. I hope you understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our support range ... Have a nice day, Patrick
