On 08/08/2013 01:49 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires >>> systemd. >>> >>> What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this >>> restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this >>> eye-candy as well. >>> >>> I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an >>> uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light. >>> >>> Facts, pls! >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478252 >> >> To stabilize gnome-3.6, we would need >> 1. one or (preferably) two *active* gentoo developers; >> 2. who are familiar with gnome's internals and are able to backport >> bugfixes from 3.8/3.10 without support from upstream developers; and >> 3. who volunteer to run openrc+gnome-3.6 for a long time on their main >> machines so that they can give a stable 3.6 the support that the word >> 'stable' implies. >> >> We do not have such people on the gnome team. >> > > Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by > the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision. > > It'll cause lots of pain for users that suddenly can't start lvm > properly and other nasty landmines hidden in the "upgrade path". By > stabilizing this early you're causing lots of extra work for others. > > I hope you understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest > to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our > support range ... > > Have a nice day, > > Patrick > > >
+1 Stabilizing it is wrong. Leave it in ~arch forever, because it is incompatible with system packages. (virtual/service-manager)