On 09/08/13 19:17, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:14 AM, viv...@gmail.com <viv...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 08/09/13 13:38, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 19:39 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió:
On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800
Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote:
You just removed the upgrade path for users.
The upgrade path is to install systemd or to implement openrc support.
Invalid upgrade path.
"The upgrade path is to install Fedora" is about as reasonable, and also
not acceptable.
The upgrade path is to run systemd, not migrate to fedora. As simply as
such
is systemd useful if not run with PID=1 ? Honest question
(Answering as a GNOME+systemd user since 2011).
AFAIU, systemd is completely useless if it isn't running as PID 1. In
particular (and the reason systemd is now a hard requirement for
GNOME), logind will not work correctly (if at all) if systemd isn't
PID 1. All the cgroups handling (for one) is non existent (or
completely different) in OpenRC.
Regards.
Correct. Ubuntu has logind working without systemd but they are stuck
at version 204. At systemd version 205 it became impossible to run
logind without systemd.
The only reason why sys-apps/systemd being installed would be useful if
it isn't PID=1 (all the time) user wants to support dualboot between
OpenRC and systemd, with different init='s, since the systemd-udevd can
be used with OpenRC.
