-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/08/13 23:42, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > On 09.08.2013 02:26, Mike Auty wrote: >> I could be a KDE developer, or a Gentoo documenter, or work on >> mplayer. All those people are open source contributors and >> necessary ones, but that doesn't mean that any of them >> necessarily has the skills or the time to look after udev. Does >> that invalidate their opinion on the choices of upstream project >> they rely on? > > Yes, it does.
In that situation then, developers are only developing for themselves? What's more likely is that they've taken a gamble that most users will simply accept their changes, which they deem as necessary to move forward. That would be fine if there were alternative options, but as more and more things are "vertically integrated" the choices made by one project are knocking over into others. Before I could simply ignore systemd and choose something else, now I'm having to choose between using both Gnome and systemd, or neither. It is a difficult choice, but just as Gnome has chosen to forsake my desire for a simplistic init system at the expense of a little boot speed and some "features" I've never needed in the past, I'm having to walk away to some other less well developed desktop environment. The cost of ignoring their users opinions is losing the users themselves. I don't know how many users they'll have to lose before someone decides to take the ship in a new direction, but I would like to see how many they stand to lose, by asking those who care to speak up and find a way of being heard before the damage is too much to repair... Mike 5:\ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIGyGUACgkQu7rWomwgFXpeugCeMGQmjB7tcnpZd12DF8Baml0s xcsAn12+EXQwTSwTeK0lautDxJmwgC7r =tgWV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----