On 11/07/2013 03:07 PM, Denis M. wrote: > On 11/07/2013 09:18 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Denis M. <g...@politeia.in> wrote: >>> On 11/07/2013 08:59 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: >>>> iirc, we give $200 if infra for developer accounts for a couple of >>>> months. If a deal is struck it would likely be more and forever or >>>> something. >>> I've been running my VM for Ago for 13 months now (started on september >>> 2012), where are my >$200? ;-) >>> >> Can't argue with that. :) >> >> Seriously, though, I'd love to see these needs better supported. I >> think we need to start by defining what the needs actually are (less >> redundancy, more consistency, etc). Then we figure out how to best >> address them. It could be individuals donating VMs, or it might be >> Gentoo buying resources from any number of vendors, or it could be >> Gentoo going out and looking for donors. I suspect that if we went >> out with something specific in mind we might be able to find a sponsor >> - but it is always best to have some idea just what we're going to be >> using any donations for (this will be our stage3 builder which cranks >> out a new stage3 every 20 minutes and reports build failures to double >> as a tinderbox, etc). >> >> Rich >> > > Currently Diego's tinderbox does something like that AFAIK. Compiles > things and (almost?) automatically submits bugs against the packages > with the relevant logs, etc... > > The initial idea behind my suggestion was that the devs would have the > enough system resources to address these bugs (and the ones reported > from the users, of course). > > An example here could be the following: finding/confirming a compilation > bug for a package with ~10 USE flags could take tatt quite some > compilations depending on the USE flag's combinations (this is actually > what arch testers do in order to stabilize/keyword a package). Another > example would be, as I mentioned in my previous mails to this thread - a > new glibc version comes out and (as you know) quite some packages fail > to compile against it. Having the resources, it would be possible to > track these packages faster instead of relying on random users/testers > to report them to bugs.g.o. And a last one would be testing new > KDE/GNOME/whatever-meta-with-huge-number-of-packages. > > As an AT member myself I could only give examples on how using such > system of donating/providing instances would be a benefit. For a > comprehensive list of the tasks (for consistency as you said), I'd wait > for actual devs to enumerate their needs. > > I doubt this will go as further as Gentoo actually *buying* resources. > The reason is obvious - "things have been going fine till now, why throw > monnies for something as 'unnecessary'" (which is why I haven't received > a penny for it, hehehe), that's why I came with the > donorship-of-instances version. I believe the 'going out looking for > donors' part you said is basically what I'm suggesting here, although I > believe you meant donors = huge companies providing clusters, and I > doubt that'll happen. > > From my observation, you can get a lot of work done on a simple > 2GB-ram-4-cores VirtualBox VM. Not to talk that lots of people nowadays > have these resources to spare. That's why getting actual people (and not > companies or whatever) to donate their system resources is easier to > get/reach. > > > Regards, > Denis M. > I may also have a small openstack cluster I can let people use soonish. Working on a backlog of issues now.
-- -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
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