-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:30:14 -0800 Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 01/21/2016 02:41 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 06:45:20PM +0100, Micha?? Górny wrote > [...] > [...] > [...] > > > > I think you misunderstood Roy. He was speaking about > > "unmaintained but perfectly functional software". You're talking > > about "a package that clearly doesn't build or otherwise simply > > doesn't work, could not have worked for past 3 years". Between > > those 2 extremes will be many cases of > > doesn't-work-for-me/works-for-me. Who'll be the final arbiter? > > > > Maybe we should start a "gentoo-ebuilds" mailing list to help > > regular users learn the ins and outs of making ebuilds. Once > > regular users run a lot of their own ebuilds from their local > > overlays, then it would be possible to do draconian pruning of the > > "official portage tree", without so adversely affecting regular > > users. This would fit in with the mantra of Gentoo being about > > freedom of choice. > > > > E.g. I use Pale Moon, a fork of Firefox. Currently, I have to > > build as regular user, su, and copy the binary to /usr/local. You > > can see "Walter's excellent adventure" <G> as I learn the build > > process at... > > https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10002 > > > > I'd like to have Portage manage the process. The ebuild from > > Firefox should serve as a template, because they both use the same > > weird Mozilla build setup. The main change should be where the > > source is pulled from. > > > > The idea sounds nice, but there's already the devmanual to cover > ebuild development, and now that the gentoo repo is in git, any > ebuilds that get treecleaned can be fetched again through history, and > users can then add those to their personal overlay(s) and keep the > piece if they break. > > I like the idea of encouraging people to learn good ebuild writing, > but who really has the time and skill to teach it? > me. Been doing it for months. You had not noticed? via #gentoo-proxy-maint, which I made from scratch, despite the notion initially being discounted by one mrueg. He now is a colleague in the channel. > - -- > Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer > OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net > fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWoXgPAAoJEAEkDpRQOeFwPvUP/1cOdVx0Mnm2yF6DU9BCXCzn > 6LdE4/g05CnkggQkQEPsL6U+oiU/C2wu9nsSSRwrHNKEoIvly/pZEz75+FFoEnF5 > RQTltJQi4lyG63bzaHYCx1nzmqAHBVbCBGDPqEC8whV8C8YAufk3SxqocBaIsD5Z > IbujCelJNGvRGBPmsIOD38aaVbcyJZFGG+m9nTTJyRQtdFGxfccE/K+xuZMLKFS/ > BQkyJdAyvGscRBLAx80o5TgZ+h7BTNW78b8aIubWaeMyqYrvQhdwaDTK7xj0cb5M > uxC7fg493PphNLLYY5sL9yHPKtyJzuWhE6r9IXtMSH3b8sTEUU4cXxF4Ep1af+k0 > 9BafYy+vAxv6fM/3VS8KGcGCwElNrCiNLJYjEdW7mCDRFNQR8cja5IVRF8KGlXD3 > 33eKUviyPtx9LB5GNS2bZNSayeJbIENr1LsY2gZ4C6nfXUOzsUp7KhM4P4WmFKWV > TOn/DbigDQjMa07L0+G+cwvrc2X2QJWG8kstD16iARvaRAnlvlO+HQeSAtO1LWwU > 7O44z0eQDxpGO6RZrBDVKNGe8dAaObQT+ueCL/sOHV2Co71Iz8zCu8z75OIhSWWM > 8Tu4pa+doFetFLmOkfkcFTxuAjcxJAJomxnLD9rNcdjDtuWF2wxATdWFruFmYPm+ > u0/PNb0YQg4Xx5M2qV63 > =FxNx > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > - -- kind regards Ian Delaney -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.1 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWoz9TXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRCRUI4RjAxNzRGRTVDMjI4RjcxNkRFNzIw QzQzN0NCNDcxRTlEMzNBAAoJEAxDfLRx6dM6jrcQAI70DMC1K2H5cyPs9sia+3ml 6teGcQLNm8DbtBLkJu5R/4Tj+idn9BinMYx7VuxlGBBXSLbDMZlJYBQd5G3fTP6r 1++oqBzVdkA2h6RaYp04NeJsJDRLrHvMh4jX+k0izR9G7kHOVwda15sdmYthcojs ++khE85mgleS9mio/a1gy2EEyY3+lkGCUSs13AU+epzioe/ZCz1zFlNqH/uDmG6+ COZaFbVuW3YlC30as5yvpoKRselx9TD/saZyMwwx2l61jMT6i8Rvo2XD/1Sp0kvb 4PPyBN8VwUId5HDhFvBKPbKezyu5K7xA01hOLFEEC+SH9Q13tfHhIiyCnogHGlDA iXZ37Q4LcXQeJnM5xjuPWVaA9SDbkv4fkUq6r7w6mXbIOtnM3hMceM+xO8eHT6CO 8jykUiNyuXd2hWiJ+oQUiQEbWrAWhqP67e63ScRpH+e1AlpFpKcwJ9mskMaMkbFm L3LWNJFnewn8ouKh2YtQro76/cW+XptK7OMfCGzHKa9eTlGUrG9y10YhBufMNktx o7K7rVSxQrizsSvGl1c/lqbanQsHB12SxGZFSyFHwG4ES1Uii/Lbx64Hw9Jhs+Wv sTIdp7bR8lBNI1YILDb4UY/ksfHIVFlB9ZVS+jwOsYYTTk/wDJri8fZhZt9ciOsF pvGUwOslCyWnhC7zY5AG =LdOn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
