On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:34:20 +0200 Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 08/28/2016 08:30 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > On 08/24/2016 09:42 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 08/24/2016 09:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >>> * no benefit put forth so far, other than that it's the same file that > >>> systemd uses, which is true but not beneficial as far as I can tell > >> > >> It's a de facto standard. Being different for the sake of being > >> different is not a virtue in cases like this. > >> > > > > And doing things because "everyone else does it" is dumb, because it > > precludes our ability to choose and makes us subject to the decisions > > made outside of our distribution. Of course, as a distro we're subject > > to outside decisions often, but what's the point of being a distro if > > you're doing things the same way everyone else does? > > > At this point I feel the need to point at /etc/mtab and how it doesn't > work anymore. Or rather: > > In the old days it did *not* carry all mountpoints, so you could hide > things like /dev and /run so that "umount -a" would not screw you sideways. > > Then tools forgot to properly update mtab because hurr why u no symlink > to /proc/mounts (oh wait, /proc/self/mounts ) > > So everyone migrated to /etc/mtab as a symlink (even OpenRC, because > everyone does it) > > ... and now if you still instincively use umount -a you unmount /run and > other bits, breaking lots of stuff (can't shutdown if OpenRC strongly > considers not having booted!) > > > That's why some of us are very resistant to change. Which could be pretty much summarized as 'I'm unhappy because I was abusing the existing system to make "umount -a" not do what it was supposed to do, and I'm unhappy because now it started to work correctly'. -- Best regards, Michał Górny <http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>
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