On 9/13/23, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alexe Stefan wrote:
>>
>> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out
>> where I'm wrong.
>> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from users.
>> If we(the users) only respond to issues that individually impact us,
>> choice will be taken away from everyone eventually(unless it's the
>> "right" choice as agreed by Lennart & co). It is called "divide and
>> conquer".
>> I do not hate gentoo. I want to see it offer as much choice as
>> possible, not restrict it.
>> I had to bear with systemd for some time before going to gentoo. I
>> don't want that to happen again.
>>
>>
>
> I'm a eudev user.  I don't like systemd either.  I'm actually having to
> deal with it for the first time after installing Ubuntu for a NAS box on
> a under powered rig with not a lot of memory.  I can honestly say, I
> don't like systemd from experience.  I'm one who will likely have to
> switch to udev even tho I don't care too.  While I'm not excited about
> it, given the lack of coders wanting to keep it alive, I'll just have to
> switch.  I may be losing a choice but hey, at least I had one that other
> distros never had.  Some distros switched with no alternative long ago.
>
> If I, someone who hates change, can change, I'm not sure why you can't
> accept that eudev just may have reached its end of life on Gentoo.  I
> missed the news item a year or so ago.  I had no idea it was not being
> maintained on Gentoo.  This sort of hit me all at once, most likely the
> same as you.  Unless someone steps up in the next week or so, I'll be
> switching.  At the least, I'm grateful to have OpenRC.  Don't get me
> started on trying to figure out how to restart a service on Ubuntu.  As
> bad as all the compiling is, Gentoo is a walk in the park.  Restart a
> service, /etc/init.d/<start typing and hit tab twice when you think you
> are close>.  Try that in Ubuntu.  Forget a hair cut this month.  I'm
> doing good to have hair.  :@  Let's see what happens and if eudev dies,
> let's accept it and be grateful for the time we did have a choice, while
> some kinks got worked out of systemd udev at least.
>
> To the other devs reading this thread still.  Thanks much from a 20 year
> user of Gentoo.  It was bumpy at first but it sure has come a
> LOOOOOOOONG ways.  I can't say enough about how much emerge has improved
> and how dependencies are resolved with ease for us users.  The work on
> the emerge command and ebuilds has improved a LOT.  I still wish the
> error output was more friendly but hey, at least there is a whole lot
> less of it.  :-D
>
> Let's deal with what is in front of us.  Thanks again to the devs.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> I'm going back to my hole now.  <me hides>
>
>

I do deal with what is in front of us. Today it's eudev. Tomorrow will
be opentmpfiles or openrc.

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