On 9/13/23, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alexe Stefan wrote: >> >> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out >> where I'm wrong. >> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from users. >> If we(the users) only respond to issues that individually impact us, >> choice will be taken away from everyone eventually(unless it's the >> "right" choice as agreed by Lennart & co). It is called "divide and >> conquer". >> I do not hate gentoo. I want to see it offer as much choice as >> possible, not restrict it. >> I had to bear with systemd for some time before going to gentoo. I >> don't want that to happen again. >> >> > > I'm a eudev user. I don't like systemd either. I'm actually having to > deal with it for the first time after installing Ubuntu for a NAS box on > a under powered rig with not a lot of memory. I can honestly say, I > don't like systemd from experience. I'm one who will likely have to > switch to udev even tho I don't care too. While I'm not excited about > it, given the lack of coders wanting to keep it alive, I'll just have to > switch. I may be losing a choice but hey, at least I had one that other > distros never had. Some distros switched with no alternative long ago. > > If I, someone who hates change, can change, I'm not sure why you can't > accept that eudev just may have reached its end of life on Gentoo. I > missed the news item a year or so ago. I had no idea it was not being > maintained on Gentoo. This sort of hit me all at once, most likely the > same as you. Unless someone steps up in the next week or so, I'll be > switching. At the least, I'm grateful to have OpenRC. Don't get me > started on trying to figure out how to restart a service on Ubuntu. As > bad as all the compiling is, Gentoo is a walk in the park. Restart a > service, /etc/init.d/<start typing and hit tab twice when you think you > are close>. Try that in Ubuntu. Forget a hair cut this month. I'm > doing good to have hair. :@ Let's see what happens and if eudev dies, > let's accept it and be grateful for the time we did have a choice, while > some kinks got worked out of systemd udev at least. > > To the other devs reading this thread still. Thanks much from a 20 year > user of Gentoo. It was bumpy at first but it sure has come a > LOOOOOOOONG ways. I can't say enough about how much emerge has improved > and how dependencies are resolved with ease for us users. The work on > the emerge command and ebuilds has improved a LOT. I still wish the > error output was more friendly but hey, at least there is a whole lot > less of it. :-D > > Let's deal with what is in front of us. Thanks again to the devs. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > I'm going back to my hole now. <me hides> > >
I do deal with what is in front of us. Today it's eudev. Tomorrow will be opentmpfiles or openrc.