On 9/13/23 1:03 AM, Alexe Stefan wrote: > On 9/13/23, Eli Schwartz <eschwart...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 9/13/23 12:35 AM, Alexe Stefan wrote: >>> On 9/13/23, Matt Turner <matts...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:45 PM Alexe Stefan <stefanalex...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Is it such a burden to make a couple of commits once in a while? >>>> >>>> I see no commits from your email address in gentoo.git, so that might >>>> be a question for you. >>>> >>> >>> I and plenty of others have their overlays. Should I try to get my >>> ebuilds into ::gentoo? >> >> >> That seems to be rather missing the point. Why are you going out of your >> way to make a distinction between: >> >> - contributing ebuilds that would otherwise not be present in ::gentoo >> at all >> >> - helping fix issues in existing ebuilds that are part of ::gentoo and >> need to be kept in good working order >> >> Both are valid ways to demonstrate a commitment to collaboratively >> improving the Gentoo project. The one you *didn't* mention is easier to >> do, though, so I'd probably suggest trying that first. >> > > I do open bugs and threads about various issues regarding packages, > and propose solutions. Sometimes their gentoo maintainers agree, > sometimes they don't. What else should I do? I don't have commit > access.
I am not sure what you're saying here. If you don't have commit access, how do you intend to get your ebuilds into ::gentoo? If you don't need commit access to get your ebuilds into ::gentoo, then what's stopping you from getting your patches against existing ebuilds into ::gentoo? Given that you were originally responding to Matt's remark that you have no commits in ::gentoo associated with your email address, I am merely pointing out that you are performing a bit of self-gatekeeping by interpreting this as "my ebuilds" rather than "my code contributions". If you propose solutions, do you include a demonstration patch to apply against ::gentoo that implements your proposed solution? Because that would make it very easy to have those solutions become associated with you. :) >>>>> How many commits were made in the last year to accommodate eudev? >>>> >>>> I'm not your monkey. >>>> >>>>> Regarding the bugs, what else did you expect when no news item was >>>>> given? >>>> >>>> Right, we should have done something *else* to keep eudev going. >>>> >>>> Welcome to my killfile. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Something I said in this thread struck a chord? >> >> >> I think it's a very fair assessment to make that this thread is quite >> hostile to the Gentoo Developers as a whole, and hostile behavior >> towards the Gentoo Developers does indeed strike a chord. >> >> I am not completely sure why you find it important or desirable to >> highlight the fact that you elicit strong negative emotions in others, >> mind you. But I'm sure you have very good reasons for it. >> >> >> -- >> Eli Schwartz >> >> >> > > I don't think I said anything about you? > I do not like to see choice being taken away for no good reason, > especially in regards to such a contested topic. And I don't like signing up to this mailing list in order to email in a patch against ::gentoo to improve the speed of compilation for python libraries and make them more easily tested and debuggable, and getting my inbox filled with a bunch of yelling, hateful people who go around insulting the hard work of the Gentoo Developers, complaining that they didn't put in even MORE hard work, and figuratively screaming to the heavens about how it's a conspiracy to deny choice. You, in particular, even admitted you don't use eudev! But you're still more than happy to pontificate about how it's, I dunno, the most useful thing since sliced bread, or so I assume from the absolute moaning and wailing and gnashing of teeth about its removal. And you call it a contested topic! Contested by people who don't use it and are only contesting it in order to stir up trouble! And not content to stick with pontificating about how useful the philosophical concept of choice between two copies of the same code with different marketing names that you don't even use is, you have to describe it as > intentional crippling of systemd alternatives > regardless of how much money changes hands (???????) > Do devs receive prizes based on how many useful packages they remove? > Don't answer that, we all already know the answer. (lmao) > most of those bugs were listed in the mask comment just to > increase the number of open bugs. I start to wonder: given you appear to despise the Gentoo Project with an almighty hatred, why do you use the darned thing anyway. It's a conspiracy to torment you and deny you choice, the Developers are getting secretly paid to remove packages that disagree with the New World Order of systemd, blah blah blah. Clearly Gentoo just has it in for you, so you'd better escape before it's too late. Can you please just not do this? -- Eli Schwartz
