Hi,

On Monday, 12. September 2011 10:40:02 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> The 09/09/11, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > The question arose, when Canek mentioned bluetoothd, that udev seems to
> > need in some cases.
> 
> This is wrong.
> udev on its own does not require extra tools from /usr.
> Though, the rules used by udev do use software in /usr. It's NOT a udev
> fault _at all_.

Well, this is details. Where's the diffference from user-point-of-view, whether 
it's udev itself or some scripts executed by udev?
And I tend to disagree, with the not udev's fault part.
udev treats all exit-codes from scripts as if the device were not present.
This includes errors of all kinds. How is this supposed to work at all?

> So, what's the good way to fix all that mess? Certainly not moving most
> of software to /. Fortunately, we can expect /usr to be mounted before
> udev starts via the initramfs.

That's *your* opinion. Most people on this list disagree.

> It does NOT mean everybody will require a initramfs. It means people
> WANTING a seperate /usr will need a initramfs.
> The good thing is that a lot of tools now in / will be granted back to
> /usr. Let's clean up /. Also, it's a _good_ news for admins expecting to
> maintain systems with a shared /usr (e.g. over the network).

Since when is a mandatory initramfs a good thing for admins?
Care to explain?

Regards,
Michael


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