Am Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:50:51 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:30:16 +0100 > Marc Joliet <mar...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > Am Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:04:46 -0800 > > schrieb Grant <emailgr...@gmail.com>: > > > > [...] > > > > XMPP clients are a dime a dozen, take you pick: pidgin, kopete, > > > > telepathy and a hots of others. > > > > > > > > Servers are another story. All of them that you can lay your > > > > hands on seem to suck big eggs big time. ejabberd is the only one > > > > I found stable enough to actually stay up for sane amounts of > > > > time, and not DEPEND on java. > > > > > > > > But that info might be well out of date, I haven't looked at our > > > > jabber server for ages. There's no need to - the techies all > > > > gravitated by themselves over to GTalk and Skype, claiming that > > > > the cloud services did everything they needed and more, and it > > > > was there, and it worked. Our in-house jabber server - not so > > > > much. > > > > > > > > Can't say I blame them. It's true. > > > > > > Thanks Alan, this is just the kind of info I need. It sounds like > > > I would be better off with a cloud solution for collaborative chat. > > > > Just out of curiosity: why couldn't you use a Jabber client with > > Bonjour/Zeroconf support (all or most of them?) within the company > > (which is what this is for IIUC)? With Zeroconf, the Jabber clients > > "find each other", then you wouldn't need to bother with setting up a > > server. > > > > Or is Zeroconf problematic? I know Pidgin can do Zeroconf on Windows, > > even if you need to manually install a separate package for it to > > work. > > > > That doesn't really work when one fellow is at his desk in the office, > another at home on an ADSL connection and the third is a 3rd party dev > based in Los Angeles. That's quite common for me. > > Zeroconf has it's uses, but it does have a rather narrow scope as to > where it can work. I understand that, I just thought that Grant was talking about a purely internal chat solution (like my workplace has) - he did say "within a company" (though admittedly in retrospect I realize that that doesn't necessarily mean *physically* within the company). Regardless, it isn't clear to me that Grant is talking about something that has to be available from anywhere. While he is apparently gravitating towards a "cloud solution" for chat, my understanding is that that is because then he doesn't have to manage his own server. All of the other solutions mentioned could be for internal *and* external use. Anyway, I was just curious and thought that if this is purely for internal use than Zeroconf might be a good server-less option for chat. -- Marc Joliet -- "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup
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