Neil Bothwick <neil <at> digimed.co.uk> writes:
> That sounds nice but is a Bad Idea in the real world where most people > judge things by the default setup. Turns off the nice features and 90+% > of people trying the software don't see them. Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support center, where new stuff is rolled out to cutomers without first explaing, warning and offering up options..... It's shows a blatant disrespect for the existing customer base. Nobody in business, treats existing customers that way, imho. In industry, punks with that mentality get *FIRED*.... > It seems to me you dumped KDE because it had too many features and now are > complaining that LXDE's terminal is short on features. WRONG! I dumped KDE, like many others, because I got tire of wasting time trying to figure how what the hell happen each time a ran an upgrade, like legends of others. KDE seems to have a bit to much "redmond" mentality for my tastes. You like it, run it. I done with that time-sink you refer to as KDE. Note, I've use a myriad of qt based open source and commercial products on embedded systems. Those efforts do not mirror the "attide" of the KDE camp, you espouse so well. My LXDE environment is coming along fine. Actuall quite wonderful, at a fraction of the footprint. In fact, now that I am emersed in researching what I want and do not want, it's going to get setup *ONCE*. Then I do not have to piss away time on stupid idea that are IMPOSED upon me by others. By going the minimal approach, I'm also freeing up my GPU to use as a general purpose search/sort engine and I am quite looking forward to upcoming version of gcc to offload those sort of fuctions to the GPU. In fact, there is a very large movement of folks going back to basics on graphics and the destop enviorment, as these efforts play very well with the "lighter resource" offerings of a myriad of new embedded toys. So what you do on your desktop can easily be run also on a small net_appliance or internet device..... with the user in control of their resources. > Either run Konsole on LXDE or do wht you suggested the KDE devs do and > run KDE with the eye > candy turned off. The former is probably more > sensible. no thanks. Raw X is just fine for my needs, wants and desires. In fact, it's quite refreshing when I install something like mixxx, cinelerra, or blender, I get a wonderful, full featured graphical experience, without bloatware. > You could take a look at ROSA or Mageia, both of those distros have > implemented KDE in a much nicer way, and you can always nick their > themes and configs. So far, I have not found anything I want that cannot be added to LXDE/openbox. It's a bit of work. But knowing that only the minimal is installed, and the apps simply fly faster/better, leaves me bitter that I wasted so much time on KDE. It's a "dog" that needs a bath and to be put on a very restrictive diet, if it is to become a beneficial assset again. But, I'm an old "C" hack and detest most of the C++ code I look at, so I guess I am pre-disposed to the opinions of an old grouch. You like KDE, I'm glad. Know this, I ran that (pig) KDE for years and years, was very steeped in QT and have left for greener pastures....(LXDE and openbox). If/when I find some I need or want, and it's not available, I'll just hack a patch and give it to whoever. After all, I still have a set of X11-R6 manuals in storage. Hell. with todays GPUs going back to pixmaps and basic logic constructs for pixel rendering is some "old math" I have not played with in decades.... And I'm lovin my desktop again. I have control! peace and good hunting, James
