On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Heiko Baums <li...@baums-on-web.de> wrote: > Am 20.12.2016 um 17:47 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> Clearly nobody forced you to run it, because you aren't running it >> now. > > That's again one of those silly arguments. I'm just not running it > because I'm using Gentoo again. On Arch Linux they forced systemd onto > the users. Because the Arch Linux users don't have any choice if they > want to use Arch Linux, because they e.g. don't want to compile anything > and still want to have bleeding edge software.
Anybody can run openrc on Arch linux. They just have to set it up themselves, or form a group to share the work. > >> Nobody is going to waste their time trying to convince you that >> systemd is better than anything else, because in the end your opinion >> doesn't actually affect us. > > Because of your ignorant attitude. Fortunately it's not only my opinion. > Unfortunately the Poettering fanboys are just the loudest but not the > majority. No, your opinion doesn't affect me because the only thing you've been contributing is noise. I don't need your help to run systemd, or anything else, and you aren't offering it besides. If anything it works the other way around. There seem to be a lot more Gentoo devs who run systemd who are actively contributing openrc scripts than Gentoo devs who run openrc who are actively contributing systemd units. I haven't actually done a poll but I see a lot more people asking the systemd team to help them write systemd units than people asking the openrc team to help them write init.d scripts. >> People who prefer systemd will maintain >> it, and people who prefer openrc will maintain that, and we can all be >> happy. > > That's true for Gentoo, Slackware, Devuan, and maybe still Debian, but > not for the other Distros like Ubuntu and its derivatives, Arch Linux, > Redhat, Fedora etc. > Anybody can maintain openrc on any distro. Maybe they can't put it in the official repository, that would be up to the people who control those repositories. However, as everybody is quick to point out the dependency list for sysvinit+openrc is incredibly light, which makes it fairly easy to run on any distro. You could probably get sysvinit running on arch in 15min. Openrc would take longer, mainly because you'd have to adapt the scripts for any services you care about. But, it isn't THAT hard to do. -- Rich
