Dave On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 11:42 AM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I > > > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that? That would be > > > interesting. I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM > > > instead. Interesting thought. I just may go bug google on that one. > o_O > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point but why would you want LVM on a > > storage pool? If I'm doing backups I just want space. I let TrueNas > > put it on disk and give it back if asked. Why put another layer > > of indirection? > > > > If you're intending to use it as simple NAS - i.e. - the only copy > > of some data on your network - then possibly LVM might > > be interesting, but then you need a second TrueNAS box > > to back that up. NAS as a mountable data location is > > different than NAS doing backups which is what I thought > > this thread was about. What am I not remembering? > > > > - Mark > > > > > > It's more about me being more used to using LVM. Also, more used to > Linux as well. BSD is not something I have much experience with and until > recently, none with ZFS. Even the little experience I have with BSD was > well over a decade ago, maybe two decades ago. I barely remember it really. > > > > By replacing ZFS with LVM, I'm working with something I'm familiar with > and less likely to mess up things. Things get messed up enough without > adding more confusion. ;-) > > > > Dale > > > > :-) :-) > > Hummm...I don't know Dale, I don't know... ZFS is a file system. > LVM is an abstraction on top (or underneath?) of a file system. > My understanding of LVM is that it frees you from hard decisions > on partition sizes, not that it replaces ZFS or ext3/4/5. > > > That is true. Thing is, I've learned how to manage LVM even with > encrypted data. I've also learned how to expand storage without losing > data or getting confused about what I'm doing. To me, using LVM is pretty > easy given the notes I have for the tasks I do most often. > > > You may or may not know this but TrueNAS is available as a > Linux version: > > https://www.truenas.com/blog/first-release-of-truenas-on-linux/ > > I don't recommend it. It's new. Let someone else figure it out. However > it might be more to your liking, and because it's Linux you'd be more > comfortable messing it up. ;0- > > WRT you I recommend that you try living in NGL for a while. Possibly > you are just a bit too indoctrinated in the religion of building packages > 30-50 times a year believing (without hard data) that it provides value. > Instead you might just consider relaxing and letting the system > take care of itself. In the last year I've only updated my TrueNAS box > twice that I can remember. > > On the other hand if system tweaking is what brings you joy then > Que Sera Sera ..... > > Good luck, > Mark > > > > It's not that I want to compile things, it's that I want to use things I'm > already really familiar with. If I bought a Raspberry Pi and built a NAS > with it, I don't care if I compile the software on it or not as long as it > has the software I need or I can install what I need. From what I've read, > compiling on a Raspberry isn't much fun. It's very time consuming. Having > a OS, binary one at that, that is Linux based is a big plus. I can run > LVM, cryptsetup and such in likely every Linux distro out there and get the > same result as on my Gentoo box. Switching to BSD, using ZFS, means I have > to learn a whole new set of tools and methods. I had enough fun learning > LVM and I don't think LVM is going to die anytime soon. It should be > around for the foreseeable future. As it is, even now, I still don't get > how ZFS works. I just followed a guide to get it working, sort of. It's > still not encrypted. Figuring that out is next. That should be fun. > > My network card is out for delivery. A few days late but better than > never I guess. I'll see if the drivers needed for it are available as > modules or not. I suspect they are tho based on info in this thread. > > Dale > > :-) :-) >
