These figures should appear in the underlying chapters, which, unlike the Summary for Policy Makers, is not tampered with by politicians.
The underlying chapters can be found here: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg3/ It would be interesting to do a comparison of the initial draft of the SPM and the draft as finally approved by governments, with some documentation for who objected to what and why. _______________ Ken Caldeira Carnegie Institution for Science Dept of Global Ecology 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA +1 650 704 7212 kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira Assistant: Dawn Ross <dr...@carnegiescience.edu> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Ronal W. Larson <rongretlar...@comcast.net>wrote: > Ken, Alan, List: > > Thanks for the lead on the "*Science"* story. I learned a little more. > > Apparently the week's political negotiations resulted in the deletion of > five figures and considerable text. It sure would be interesting to have a > separate "pirate" publication that only showed these deletions. Even > better would be an added guide to which countries were most responsible for > these changes. Anyone already done this? > > Ron > > > On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:04 AM, Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu> > wrote: > > As far as I can tell, Hamilton provides no citation in this work to > support the following assertion, other than his own book: > > *Already, conservative forces in the United States are promoting it as a > substitute for emissions reductions.* > > I further note the incongruity of reading a section titled "A world > controlled by scientists" the same day that Science magazine publishes an > article about how the politicians ignore the recommendations of scientists > when it comes to climate change: > > > http://news.sciencemag.org/climate/2014/04/scientists-licking-wounds-after-contentious-climate-report-negotiations > > > > _______________ > Ken Caldeira > > Carnegie Institution for Science > Dept of Global Ecology > 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA > +1 650 704 7212 kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu > http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab > https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira > > Assistant: Dawn Ross <dr...@carnegiescience.edu> > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Alan Robock <rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>wrote: > >> Geoengineering and the politics of science, by Clive Hamilton >> Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, April 16, 2014, doi: 10.1177/0096340214531173 >> >> >> >> http://bos.sagepub.com/content/early/2014/04/15/0096340214531173.abstract.html >> >> The latest reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change >> (IPCC) include an assessment of geoengineering--methods for removing carbon >> dioxide from the atmosphere, or cooling the Earth by reflecting more of the >> sun's radiation back into space. The IPCC assessment signals the arrival of >> geoengineering into the mainstream of climate science, and may normalize >> climate engineering as a policy response to global warming. Already, >> conservative forces in the United States are promoting it as a substitute >> for emissions reductions. Climate scientists are sharply divided over >> geoengineering, in much the same way that Manhattan Project scientists were >> divided over nuclear weapons after World War II. Testing a geoengineering >> scheme, such as sulfate aerosol spraying, is inherently difficult. >> Deployment would make political decision makers highly dependent on a >> technocratic elite. In a geoengineered world, experts would control the >> conditions of daily life, and it is unlikely that such a regime would be a >> just one. A disproportionate number of scientists currently working on >> geoengineering have either worked at, or collaborated with, the Lawrence >> Livermore National Laboratory. The history of US nuclear weapons >> laboratories during the Cold War reveals a belief in humankind's right to >> exercise total mastery over nature. With geoengineering, this kind of >> thinking is staging a powerful comeback in the face of climate crisis. >> ---- >> Hamilton correctly explains my arguments against a gradual ramp up of >> geoengineering as proposed by David Keith, and the lack of a rebuttal in >> Keith's book. >> >> But I just want to point out that even though I had a summer job at >> Livermore when I was a grad student 41 years ago, and have collaborated >> with climate scientists there since then on nuclear winter and >> geoengineering, I am not evil and determined to control the world with >> geoengineering. >> >> Alan >> >> -- >> Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor >> Editor, Reviews of Geophysics >> Director, Meteorology Undergraduate Program >> Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751 >> Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644 >> 14 College Farm Road E-mail: rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu >> New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock >> http://twitter.com/AlanRobock >> Watch my 18 min TEDx talk at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsrEk1oZ-54 >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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