Hi all, I wanted to give some light feedback on this document, unrelated to the current discussion thread.
Overall, I feel this document is in a very reasonable spot, we should try this approach and gather initial data on how it performs in practice! Thanks Simon and everyone for working on this. *"R1: Recommendation: write the final version yourself"* could be better softened to something like: *"R1: Make a final human author-led pass." *My thinking is that the current wording somewhat undermines the otherwise tool-neutral position, and could even be interpreted as a requirement in practice despite being labeled a recommendation. In my opinion, hand-typing every character isn't a relevant standard, except as a supplement to (P2). Best, Avi ᐧ On Sat, Aug 1, 2026 at 4:52 AM Wolfgang Jeltsch via ghc-devs < [email protected]> wrote: > Am Sa 01.08.2026 12:17 schrieb Michael Peyton-Lebed via ghc-devs: > > Historically people have been able to use whatever tools they want to > > *produce* open-source contributions. > > The difference is that previously people produced software with the help > of tools, while with LLMs they use tools to produce software for them. > > > This is one of the reasons why I think Simon’s proposal is pretty > > good: it focusses on the part of the process that exists in the shared > > space that we all occupy: the contribution and review process; our > > growth as a community of developers who care about the project. > > The growth of the community cannot be separated from the growth of its > members, and this is influenced by the tools they use. > > > It seems to me that the *crux* of the most heated disagreements in > > this thread is about whether or not use of LLMs is *immoral*. > > That’s not the only thing. Several people, including me, are worried > about the negative effects that LLM use will have on the codebase. > > I realize that my above remarks didn’t add anything new to the > discussion, but apparently some things that were already said have been > overlooked or forgotten, so that it was probably worthwhile to repeat > them. > > All the best, > Wolfgang > _______________________________________________ > ghc-devs mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > -- Avi Press Founder & CEO | Scarf
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