On 10/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > SCA SCSI is kind of rare on x86 ...
>
>   If you say so.  I've been getting SCA on most of my x86 servers for
> something close to a decade now.  :)  I suppose if you compare vs the
> entire population of x86 boxes, including $200 Wal-Mart specials, then
> yah, SCA is rare.


The only place I'd seen SCA is on Sun boxes :-)  But then, I haven't dug
into too many x86 servers.


  Of course, SCA is being displaced by SAS now, which has a yet
> another incompatible connector.  Yay standards!  ;)
>
> > ... bang/buck is low.
>
>   Divide by zero error.  (The server was also "free".)
>
> > If it's an option, how about a SATA PCI card & SATA drives?
>
>   Thought about it.  Thing is, I think the SCA backplane also serves
> to connect some of the chassis fans.  If so, removing it (to make room
> for the SATA and power cables and connectors) would be a bad idea.
> Even if it is possible, we'd loose hot swap, and so disk changes would
> be a pain.  Not that we can't take it out of the rack if we have to,
> but it'd be nice not to have to.  That said, the chassis does have
> room for a PCI card, and my hacksaw still works, so it may be an
> option, should push come to shove.  :)


Needs to be rack mounted then.

I've used the following which might be acceptable for GNHLUG or not:

Leave the OS disks on a RAID1 setup.  Data on the following setup.
4 port SATA card
4 42" long SATA cables
4 short SATA extenders (from card to outside of box)
external case with power supply (an old PC)
4 pin power adapter to 2 SATA power ends
4 SATA drives
4 short SATA extenders from drives to outside of case
fans in case pulling air through drives

There's a $20 4 port SATA card that works nice with Linux.
There are IDE to SATA adapters for $20ish.  They need a floppy power
connector.
I have a test setup at work with an external storage tower ($169).

We could take up a collection for the parts & drives.  I have an extra IDE
to SATA adapter and $20 toward the SATA card.
Maybe someone has an old 1U server chassis w/ a power supply and fans?
Maybe someone has an extra IDE or SATA drive?

SATA is inherently hot plug.  I've read about someone adding a SATA drive to
an running linux box.  It reminds me of doing it with external SCSI drives.




-- Ben
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