+1 to the idea of a "web release manager" or whatever you call it.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > (Cc goes to gnome web list) > > Hi John, thanks for replying > > john palmieri schrieb: > > There has been work on the new site though I'm not sure what the > > status is, I'm guessing it is in GNOME SVN. I think the people > > involved just got overwhelmed with other things. If you wanted to > > volunteer I bet the web team would welcome your help. > Its not that I do not know anything about the status. As far as I > understand there are the old pages in SVN - and also somewhere is a new > Plone based website that will be release final at any date in the > future. The problem is rather, that some small fixes like bug #553529 > get uncommented for a month, some things (like deleting gnome office > pages) even took 4 years. There is not at all a lack of volunteers - but > most do give up contributing as they are not able to really help or get > feedback on what they do, or what they like to do. Or if they get > feedback they get a NO. > > Another fact will be, that even if the new Plone based site will be > ready in two years (and ahy everything other changes are stopped) it > could hardly suck up all pages that are there currently. There is an > endless count of pages. Many projects also do not update theirs any more > like the Epiphany guys. > > As i said - its not so much a technical or a work problem - its a > problem of responsibility and organization. GNOME web teams sounds good, > but its impossible to get a definitive answer from anybody because > everybody only takes part of the responsibility and none of that is > official. In relation to a GNOME software project its like there is no > release management - and the SVN mechanism reduces possible help mostly > to those who are focusing on software development and not websites > (which is really a totally unrelated task). > > The GNOME Germany web pages face similar problems and are offline since > 3 years. Same problem - nobody cares and nobody wants to be responsible > - but different effect - www.gnome.org still exists but its in very bad > shape. > > I am not seeking for a short term solution but I like to see a longterm > organizational change which would be somebody who gets task to manage > the web sites from the GNOME Foundation. This should be somebody who > has good connections to the developer community but rather comes from a > web background or at least has helped some web projects to get > (re)launched. It does not have to be the one who actually writes code or > works on the web server configs, but he should be able to do so if > nobody else does. > > I would suggest to seek somebody who does just this. I guess there would > be some in the GNOME related community who could do that. And that would > be the one to contact, who also leads the web team and has the last word > on major changes, deadlines, etc.. I think that somebody like that is > missing for years. Until now things only changed if somebody with SVN > access was motivated to fix things. Thats not sufficient for managing > important web pages. > > regards, > Thilo > > -- > Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme > Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) > http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ > XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list >
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