On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 22:34:30 -0400 Richard wrote: > > I meant that I was fine with removing all third party package managers > > if that was the only way to make Parabola not explode. > > I think that solution is so drastic and painful that we should rather > start fixing them one by one, and the distros can keep using the broken > packages managers until we replace them.
it was not painful - users griped about the lost convenience; but these third-party packages managers should never affect the operating system - by those words alone, the danger should be obvious if that were true - if the removal of any were harmful to the system, that would be just cause to treat them as a fatal infection and eradicate them from the system, before those third-parties have the power to hold our systems hostage by withholding essential system components or dependencies - if you think i am over-stating that, it has happened before in the javascript world, with widespread damage those package managers are important for OSes without proper package management - we have proper package management - everything in those repos that people want to use, can and should be packaged properly by distros instead - to believe otherwise is an anti-distro mentality - that is the reason why removing them from parabola caused no damage - all of the important packages from those repos are already packaged in the distro repos - if users request more, we can add more ignoring that they are a loop-hole for installing non-free software, any distro dev who wants to keep these is only being lazy, or pandering to their users' desire for convenience - parabola has been guilty of both for years; but anyone who believes they are necessary or inherently valuable does not understand why distros exist and why those package manager exist - they are not for us - they are for someone else's (proprietary) system
