Sventlana, On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 21:00 Svetlana Tkachenko <svetl...@members.fsf.org> wrote:
> Gregory Casamento wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 19:40 Svetlana Tkachenko wrote: > are required to continue using a savannah or a gitlab officially as > github is nonfree and can't be added to official gnustep docs. > > We have a mirror on github now. Once we are on Savannah it will be > bidirectional. We can call Savannah the master if that satisfies the FSF > political agenda. Additionally, the whole point of the previous discussion > was to underscore the point that we can commit from either place. > > > > Using Savannah is untenable due to its shortcomings as previously > described in this thread. > > Apart from migration 'to git' taking 3 months and not being done > right... As I said, I asked and had to pester them for weeks. That's unacceptable. Pull requests are a pain at Savannah. They have a patches section > (https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?8217) to submit proposed changes > without creating a fork-which-takes-ages-to-manually-approve, but it > does not allow inline comments on the diff. Savannah is not usable. Gregory Casamento wrote: > > I have seen nothing from RMS saying we can't mention where we are > mirrored in GNUstep docs. If we did I would be shocked as this would > restrict access to free software. > > A freedom-respecting way to link a user to software which is only found > on github is by providing them with a tarball or a working git mirror. > Such mirror, while respecting the user's freedoms, may be less > convenient. We've already got one (a mirror). Gregory Casamento wrote: > > I would like to hear directly from him on this subject. > > I would be glad to have an official response from FSF about this as well > so I will perhaps forward a link to this thread to i...@fsf.org . First off I really don't need you or anyone else to act as a liaison for me to RMS or the FSF. I have met the man in person (in Brighton, UK). I'll ask him myself as I have done on many occasions over the last 15 years. I have to add this... I believe it's childish to ask for permission for every bloody little thing. We have a working mirror already on github. The discussion is around using github as a second master until Savannah is up to snuff. Period. Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Another option is for us to consider this a fork. It would simplify a > number of things for us if that were the case. > > It is a fork only if it is different contents than the other copy. I hate to burst your bubble, but it's a fork if I say it's a fork. If I take GNUstep and put it on another server and call it Cacao even with no changes or minimal changes, It's a fork. GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com http://ind.ie/phoenix/
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