I'm afraid I don't see what is incoherent about Elsevier's policy. It
certainly does NOT have the meaning attributed to it by "Dixit," who
seems to be the one confused here.

Sandy Thatcher


At 8:44 PM -0500 1/10/11, Stevan Harnad wrote:
>** Cross-posted **
>
>The following query came up on the UKCORR mailing list:
>
>>  I was surprised to read the paragraph below under author's rights
>  >(http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/copyright##rights)
>>  "the right to post a revised personal version of the text of the
>>>  final journal article (to reflect changes made in the peer review
>>>  process) on your personal or institutional web site or server for
>>>  scholarly purposes, incorporating the complete citation and with a
>>>  link to the Digital Object Identifier (DOI) of the article (but not
>>>  in subject-oriented or centralized repositories or institutional
>>>  repositories with mandates for systematic postings unless there is
>>>  a specific agreement with the publisher- see
>>>  http://www.elsevier.com/fundingbody agreements for further
>>>  information]);"
>
>You can't blame Elsevier's Perplexed Permissions Personnel for
>trying: After all, if researchers -- clueless and cowed about
>copyright -- have already lost nearly two decades of research
>access and impact for no reason at all, making it clear that only
>if/(when they are required (mandated) by their institutions and
>funders will they dare to do what is manifestly in their own best
>interests and already fully within their reach, then it's only
>natural that those who perceive their own interests to be in
>conflict with those of research and researchers will attempt to
>see whether they cannot capitalize on researchers' guileless
>gullibility, yet again.
>
>In three words, the above "restrictions" on the green light to
>make author's final drafts OA are (1) arbitrary, (2) incoherent,
>and (3) unenforceable. They are the rough equivalent of saying:
>You have "the right to post a revised personal version of the
>text of the final journal article (to reflect changes made in the
>peer review process) on your personal or institutional web site
>or server for scholarly purposes -- but not if you are required
>to do so by your institution or funder."
>
>They might as well have added "or if you have a blue-eyed uncle
>who prefers tea to toast on alternate Tuesdays."
>
>My own inclination is to say that if researchers prove to be
>stupid enough to fall for that, then they deserve everything that
>is coming to them (or rather, withheld from them).
>
>But even I, seasoned cynic that the last 20 years have made me,
>don't believe that researchers are quite that stupid -- though I
>wouldn't put it past SHERPA/Romeo to go ahead and solemnly
>enshrine this latest bit of double-talk in one of its slavish
>lists of "General Conditions" on a publisher's otherwise "green"
>self-archiving policy, thereby helpfully furnishing an effective
>pseudo-official megaphone for every such piece of optimistic
>gibberish, no matter how absurd.
>
>My advice to authors (if, unlike what the sensible computer
>scientists and physicists have been doing all along -- namely,
>self-archiving without first seeking anyone's blessing for two
>decades -- they only durst self-archive if their publishers have
>first given them their green light to do so) is that they take
>their publishers at their word when they do give them their green
>light to do so, and ignore any SHERPA/Romeo tommy-rot they may
>try to append to that green light to make it seem as if there is
>any rational line that can be drawn between "yes, you may make
>your refereed final draft OA" and "no, you may not make your
>refereed final draft OA."
>
>For those who are interested in knowing what is actually
>happening, worldwide, insofar as OA self-archiving is concerned,
>I recommend reading Peter Suber's stirring 2010 Summary of real
>progress rather than the sort of pseudo-legalistic
>smoke-screening periodically emitted by Permissions Department
>Pundits (whether or not not they are canonized by SHERPA-Romeo):
>http://www.earlham.edu/%7Epeters/fos/newsletter/01-02-11.htm#2010
>
>Dixit,
>
>Your Weary and Wizened Archivangelist


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