These are all examples of the 'fairy godmother' payment model
 
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I would add some journal form economics: 

 

a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
 
b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/
 
c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding by
IZA):
http://journals.iza.org/
 
d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now
society based funding):
http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
 

b) and d) have an impact factor, a) and c) are new 

 

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Von: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] Im Auftrag
von Bo-Christer Björk
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. August 2012 11:43
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Cc: Laurent Romary
Betreff: [GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly
communities/institutions

 

Good idea,

Here are four such journals, all of which have been there since the 1990s:

Information Research

Journal of Information Technology in Construction

Journal of Electronic Publishing

First Monday

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Bo-Christer Björk

Journal of On 8/9/12 11:35 AM, Laurent Romary wrote:

Dear all,

As an echo to the fourth option mentioned by Peter, I would like to gather
references to journals and initiatives which are notoriously community
based. Could members of the list point to what they would be aware of? 

Thanks in advance,

Laurent

 

Le 7 août 2012 à 16:11, Peter Murray-Rust a écrit :





 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sally Morris
<sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

We should not delude ourselves; journals can only be 'free' if someone pays
the costs.

All the work involved in creating and running a journal has to be paid for
somehow - they don't magically go away if a journal is e-only (in fact,
there are some new costs, even though some of the old ones disappear).

I can only see three options for who pays:  reader-side (e.g. the library);
author-side (e.g. publication fees);  or 'fairy godmother' (e.g. sponsor).


There is a fourth option, which works: the scholarly community manage
publication through contributed labour and resources and the net amount of
cash is near-zero. This is described in
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/ where
the J. Machine Learning Research is among the highest regarded journals in
the area (top 7%) and free-to-authors and free-to-readers. There is an
enlightening debate (on this URL) between those who run the journal and Kent
Anderson of the Scholarly Kitchen who cannot believe that people will run
and work for journals for the good of the community.

There is no law of physics that says this doesn't scale. It is simply that
most scholars would rather the taxpayer and students paid for the
administration publishing (either as author-side or reader-side) so the
scholars don't have to do the work. And they've managed ot get 10 B USD per
year. If scholars regarded publishing as part of their role, of if they were
prepared to involved the wider community (as Wikipedia has done) we could
have a much more C21 type of activity - innovative and valuable to the whole
world rather than just academia. It would cost zero, but it would be much
cheaper than any current model.

And of course we now have a complete free map of the whole world
(openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org/> ) which is so much better
than other alternatives that many people and organizations are switching to
it. And, for many years, it didn't have a bank account and existed on
"marginal resources" from UCL (and probably still does).

But most people will regard this as another fairy tale.

 


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