--- "Fr. Ivo C da Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *** The Cardinal is not, therefore, saying what > Dr.Santosh is making him > say... >
What the Cardinal has said about the supernatural not being a fact in the world, but a mystery, is given below. Fr. Ivo is mistaken in his belief that I have made the Cardinal say these words. I have done no such thing. I have never had any kind of correspondence or conversation with this cardinal. "God is not a fact in the world, as though God could be treated as one thing among other things to be empirically investigated, affirmed or denied on the basis of observation." .......Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor "We as Christians need to examine what we might have done to give people a misleading view of God. Faith in Britain might be improved by a deeper grasp of the mystery of God on the part of believers." .......Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor "We should remember that the proper response to God is that of faith, not absolute certainty. God is said by Christian theology to be ineffable, beyond our categories and thought capacity. St Thomas Aquinas after all is quite clear that imperfect knowledge belongs to the very nature of faith. And there is a good reason for this we have no positive grasp on the mystery of God." .......Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor "We spoke too easily about God, we spoke perhaps in the wrong way and we treated God as an idea rather than a living mystery to be approached in silence and prayer rather than in the arguments of the mind. If Christianity gave European thought the impression that God can be conceptually determined and pinned down and proved as a hypothesis, then it is hardly surprising that there has been resistance, as science and culture have developed, to worshipping this idea of God." .......Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor The link to the entire transcript of Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor's lecture is: http://www.rcdow.org.uk/lectures/ Please note that not only does the cardinal deny that God is a fact in the world, but he says that He is neither an idea nor a hypothesis. What's more, he asserts that He cannot even be conceptually determined and pinned down. Cheers, Santosh --- "Fr. Ivo C da Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *** The Cardinal speaks of "intelligent, reflective > Christian faith". It is > wrong to say that "supernatural is not factual but > mysterious", if one means > it is irreal. > ............................................