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South Asian Film Festival in Goa from Fri (June 27) to Mon (June 30) At Kala Academy, and ESG, Panaji, Goa http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-June/076384.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Selma I have just noted, a bit late, your post below and therefore owe you a reply. I will try to be brief in the little time I have right now. 1 This discussion began with you telling some 9000 Goanetters that you lived in a "gated community" in London. Believe you me, this would be a major achievement by any London standard! There was no bile involved in me whatsoever but much concern that thousands of Goanetters, especially in Goa/India with some awareness of really expensive gated communities, and some in Delhi charging £5000 a month in rent, and new ones sprouting in India, should not be thoroughly misled by your claim that was entirely wrong intentionally or unintentionally. 2. Having noted that what you said was blatantly untrue, I said so, strictly in the spirit and context of your public forum post. 3. Despite the reasons provided by me, you insisted on your original claim re your gated community with unsustainable further claims to support your stance. 4. On reflection, please let us Goanetters know if you now accept that you were seriously mistaken about your gated community or if you still insist that you live in one. 5. Following your answer, we can definitely proceed further on other aspects of your claims about gated communities in the UK. I too have had a chance to read Google and other articles about gated communities in the UK and none indicate much enthusiasm for the relatively few that exist. 6. By way of info, in the 1930s or so, in Oxford, a number of walls had been built by the middle classes to separate themselves from the working class estates. These were referred to as the Cutteslowe Walls and a fascinating book about this fact may still be in print. Most certainly visitors often come to the site as they do the Berlin Wall site in Germany. The lesser known but nevertheless notorious Cuttoslowe Walls were eventually demolished after much acrimony, dispute and bitterness. But most importantly, it led to a general reluctance in the UK to separate/segregate people with gated communities (however wealthy some private people may be), and local authorities (municipalities) would be hard- pushed to permit the odd one. Even Downing Street was open to the public and I have taken photographs of friends and relatives at that famous door at No 10. This came to an end with the worsening crises in Ireland and when Irish terrorism reached London on a large scale. But of course, gated communities can be found rather a lot in parts of the USA, Columbia, Brazil and South Africa etc invariably for security/safety reasons. If I had to live in San Paulo or Rio (with among the highest murder rates in the world), for six months on an assignment, I would be stupid not to live in an expensive gated community, but thankfully, the UK is a long long way from such a situation and from the false impression you were naively providing to so many Goanetters, wittingly or unwittingly. Cornel --- Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The personal bile of your post knocked the wind out > of my sails but now that I've recovered, I have to > seriously contest your post for its utter lack of > facts. As usual, google will usually provide one > with facts, where posters find it appropriate to > make up their own.